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924Trinity
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:20 am Post subject: What can I do? |
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I have an 82 924 and I want more power from it. I have done a search, and havent really found much. If I took some parts off a 924S or a turbo would it help my performance? I want to look at what I can do withought putting a 944 turbo engine it there. _________________ '82 924 |
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Richard
Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 617 Location: Pacific N.W.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:51 am Post subject: |
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1) Port and Polish head
2) 9.3:1 or greater pistons
3) stage 1 camshaft
4) Light flywheel
5) advance timing (be careful here +5 typical)
6) electronic fuel injection (probable, not proven, but should be better than carbs)
7) stroker crank
turbo kit
9) exhaust upgrades
10) Weber carbs
11) buy a 931 or 924s
You're making 115 HP now, seems that maximum gains if you do everything right and still have a N.A. is 140-150 and still be reasonably streetable. It will cost a couple grand to do this, depending on which items you select from list above. Alot depends on how much you do yourself. List is not in order of ease or strategic logic. |
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Lizard

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:51 am Post subject: |
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ok here is the skinny, there are NO bolt on parts for performance, this is no honda, and the 924S and 944, and 944 turbo use a 2.5L engine designed by Porsche, the 82 924 that you have uses a 2.0L which is originally a Audi based engine, in order to get more power you will need to do a complete engine overhaul, raise compression, there are stroker kits out there but really hard to find, port and polish the head give a valve grind, get a wild cam, headers, and 2.5" exhaust is about opt for the engine, and maybe convert to carbs but that will lower gas mileage considerably _________________ 3 928s, |
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Lizard

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:54 am Post subject: |
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another note for you dont bother swapping in a 944 turbo engine, if you want a 944 turbo just buy 1 it will be cheaper in the longrun and you will have better int, and front bumper _________________ 3 928s, |
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924 turbo

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1566 Location: Simi Valley, CA, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Here's a quick and easy method to get more power from your 924.
Step 1. Sell your 924.
Step 2. Buy something that's fast.
Step 3. Enjoy.
Essentially, unless you have some strange emotional connection to your car, spending money to upgrade it for engine performance is pretty much throwing money away.
There are plenty of other options for less money than you will spend. A 924S or 944 can be picked up for around $3000 in pretty good shape, and they make 150-160 horsepower, which is pretty much where you'll be if you spend $3000 on your current car. The 924 turbo varies a lot in price but makes 150 horsepower and is capable of 180+ with the addition of a boost controller and nothing else. _________________ Jon Furst |
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Eturbo924
Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 2212 Location: Londonderry NH
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Check out my site
www.geocities.com/eturbo924
Go under 924 tricks link.
It will give you many ideas.
you can also check out my modifications.
My car is much faster than stock. The actual speed modifications cost me about $1,100 approx. I did all the R&R work myself.
Not a rocket. I am sure a 924S will outrun me.... but it is much better now. One of the best things you can do is find a set of Euro pistons. Got for about 15-20hp.
Then with the other work I have done you should be able to run with a 924S. I picked up a used set of Euro pistons for $75. So look around.
Eric _________________ 1982 924
1992 968
2003 C4S
Parts Parts Parts and More parts.
E-mail me for parts you need!
Drive Fast! |
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Neil924

Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 4225 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 6:58 am Post subject: |
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What happened to Apple Bit's site? It went from great to good.  |
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Lizard

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:01 am Post subject: |
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oh oh wait stickers,  _________________ 3 928s, |
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924Trinity
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| Richard wrote: | 1) Port and Polish head
2) 9.3:1 or greater pistons
3) stage 1 camshaft
4) Light flywheel
5) advance timing (be careful here +5 typical)
6) electronic fuel injection (probable, not proven, but should be better than carbs)
7) stroker crank
turbo kit
9) exhaust upgrades
10) Weber carbs
11) buy a 931 or 924s
You're making 115 HP now, seems that maximum gains if you do everything right and still have a N.A. is 140-150 and still be reasonably streetable. It will cost a couple grand to do this, depending on which items you select from list above. Alot depends on how much you do yourself. List is not in order of ease or strategic logic. |
That is what I am planning on doing. I would like to make this a reliable engine, then add a turbo onto it. the engine only has 50,000 original miles, so I think this is doable. Where can I get the pistons, camshalt, stroker crank, all of it really? _________________ '82 924 |
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jpab924
Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1538 Location: Crown pt. IN. 50 miles southeast of Chicago Ill.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| get a catalog from www.paeco.com |
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Richard
Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 617 Location: Pacific N.W.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to go turbo, you need low compression ratio, not high. They (turbos)come up on E-bay from time to time. Paeco as mentioned above has pistons and stroker cranks, also Webers. They can actually build you an engine with 142 hp for$4800 or 163hp for $5600. What you want to spend in the end is up to you. Several guys on this site think you are wasting money. All agree brake upgrade to four wheel disc is a good idea.
Vince Ponz on this site can get used Euro pistons (9.3:1) for you. Weber carbs are good for minimum 10 hp, but you'll pay at the pump. A cam is a waste unless you port and polish and raise compression ratio.
Do consider that you will spend lots of money and car will be out for large periods of time. It is cheaper to upgrade to another faster Porsche. But if money is not an issue, and you're into the challenge, it is a worthy project.
Lots to learn but lots to be proud of when you blow away a 931! |
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924Trinity
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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I know that I am blowing a lot of money. I want to work on this engine for a couple reasons. One, it will be a challenge, and two, the engine only has 57,000 miles on it, and the car was free. _________________ '82 924 |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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If you really want some honest, reliable power, find a wrecked 968, and install its 208 hp drivetrain, front suspension, and electronics. It will be a considerable challenge, but its time someone did it.
I've heard of a couple of 924S's with 968 motors, but not a 924.
Ok flame me....
BTW I already know all the issues... |
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Lizard

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: | | Ok flame me.... |
k guys you hear the man go at it,
as for slapping in the 968 drivetrain it would be fun but alot of work and the only think you would be saving on is insurance, and I am still waiting for someone to slap in a 928 engine and tranny  _________________ 3 928s, |
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924 turbo

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1566 Location: Simi Valley, CA, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: | If you really want some honest, reliable power, find a wrecked 968, and install its 208 hp drivetrain, front suspension, and electronics. It will be a considerable challenge, but its time someone did it.
I've heard of a couple of 924S's with 968 motors, but not a 924.
Ok flame me....
BTW I already know all the issues... |
Ok, I'll flame you. The 968 is 236 horsepower, not 208. The 944S2 is 208 horsepower.
 _________________ Jon Furst |
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