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[SwissRomeo924]

Hey,
I don't know where to start but my friend and I are doing this mod to a 93 Ranger XLT. We were sitting around thinking of insane things to do to make our cars haul balls for less money than buying a new car. Even with a stock 5.0L it'd haul major balls... and with the avalibility of aftermarket parts for that engine you could push LARGE amounts of HP. Even stock it has 225 HP with 300 lbs/ft of torque. With some larger internal upgrades you could push 450-500 HP which is starting to push the engine. Forced induction can take that to 700 HP if it's reinforced. Keeping weight down,not compermising handling for power, and braking power would require special attention in adapting it to a 924. Has anyone ever done this? I wanna go Mustang hunting

Laters

[Lizard]

if you wanna a ford engine - GET A MUSTANG. please dont basterdize a Porsche with a ford engine

[SwissRomeo924]

Why the heck not? So it's ok to drop a Chevy, Rover, or Audi engine in, why not a Ford? Have a little something against Ford? Mainly because we normally get our balls handed to us in a bread basket if we don't have a turbo and even then it's difficult. Ford makes very durable engines(trust me I've seen what they can take), very upgradable, and economical for the power output. 165-185 HP at the rear wheels of a 924 will beat a mustang, if you can drive. The 5L makes around 300-450HP with some moderate modification before putting it in donor car. Thats around twice the HP it takes to beat a mustang. Getting destroyed by a Chevyed Porsche or a Forded Porsche doesn't make a differance you still just got your @$$ handed to you. The differance is the max power, durability, mileage, aftermarket parts, and weight. Afraid of a little something different? Something a little faster?
BTW the only mustang I'd ever buy is a Saleen SR and a Cobra R...

(Porsche always looking to upgrade)

Good Day

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"79 Porsche 924, 2.0L, 5 Speed, Pioneer 4400 Deck, Black/Red/Carbonfiber Interior

[ This Message was edited by: SwissRomeo924 on 2002-10-03 11:24 ]

[Lizard]

yah u are right i don't like fords I have had too many bad experiances, but I expect NO ONE to follow my likings. I don't necissarily agree with your project, but I am glad you have the ability to go and do something like that, I may post my opinions but I dont mean for anyone to take offence to them or even take them seriously

[Plunger]

To follow is a picture of a 95 5.0 in a 944.

[Cbass]

What's wrong with Fords? I have had experience with plenty, and none of them have let me down so far. Except my friend, who bought an 84 tempo, with 250K on it, and an 8 year old clutch...(clutch lasted 2 weeks).

We've been trying to kill the Aerostar for 3 years now, and the only thing we've had to fix are the brakes and the starter(original started in an 86 with 170K)

[Jrod-13]

go for it!!
I love that pic of the 5.0 in there.. I bet that thing goes like hell!!
I sold my 924 this spring, and bought a 89 5.0L mustang. I simply love the fact that I can get in it everyday, hit the key and the 208,000mile engine starts right away, even when hot. when I do need to buy parts for it they will be cheap, and I can go knock down some 14 second quartermile times. and still get 24mpg with 4.10gears, I used to get 27 with the old gears.
honestly if i come acrossed a deal on another 924, I will get one, and slap in a 5.0L the power and reliabilty of a ford are second to none.

[SwissRomeo924]

Mmm 5.0 *druels I don't have the money right now but it's a future thing that i'm going to have to have prepared and some idea of what i'm doing to complete it over a short time... I'm getting new rims and low profiles and new Bilstein shocks in the front. Does anyone know what all you need to complete the entire conversion for a 5.0L swap?

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"79 Porsche 924, 2.0L, 5 Speed, Pioneer 4400 Deck, Black/Red/Carbonfiber Interior

[ This Message was edited by: SwissRomeo924 on 2002-10-11 12:36 ]

[SwissRomeo924]

Anyone out there? Or are we too busy determining if it's "proper" to drop a 5L? Screw proper I wanna drive lol

[Lizard]

oh well to each his own

[924 turbo]

I don't see why a 5.0 engine would have different requirements than any other engine swap. Look at the older threads and you'll find a long, expensive, and time-consuming list of things to do to swap in a different engine.

[SwissRomeo924]

Thank you Lizard, I think people should try different things. Everyones entitled to an opinion.

I've read all of the swap boards and found very little real information on what you actually need to swap an engine in or out. Sure I know you need an engine(upgraded if you want), tranny, and dif. But what do you REALLY need. I need educated facts/opinions. I was thinking either, the 5L, a T5/T6, and 8.8 gears. How does that all come together?! I think we need someone who's done a swapp with either a chevy or ford it doesn't matter completely to give some basic overview on the processes that are included. Do you switch the rearend out for a differential or what?


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"79 Porsche 924, 2.0L, 5 Speed, Pioneer 4400 Deck, Black/Red/Carbonfiber Interior

[ This Message was edited by: SwissRomeo924 on 2002-10-17 08:36 ]

[924 turbo]

You can ditch the transaxle and put in a solid rear axle, but this will require widening of the torque tube tunnel to fit the transmission as well as finding a way to attach the rear axle and making a custom suspension for it to work.

It would be much easier to have a clutch made (or find one, if it exists) that mates with the stock driveshaft and make a plate that allows you to retain the ford bellhousing.

Either way, it's not an inexpensive proposition, and if you're really unsatisfied with the amount of power available (read: not much) from the stock engine your best bet is to ditch the car and buy something faster.

The 944 turbo would be a good replacement as it is quite fast and upgradeable, but of course you could just get a nice 5.0 Mustang as well. If you're planning on drag racing (and I'm not implying that you are or aren't), the 924/944 just isn't the car for you.

[Lizard]

ditching the transaxle and putting in a solid rear would alos loose the near perfect weight ratio (front/rear)

[Cbass]

I had a crazy idea kicking around, but I'm too poor to test it out on my RX7 project right now... Get a G31 snailshell(1979-80 931 5 speed), and a 944 driveshaft(or a 81-82 931 shaft). The 944 shaft is the same diameter as the G31 shaft, but is a bit longer. Have the longer 944 shaft shortened and remachined to fit a Ford clutch...

With this setup, the whole thing should just "bolt up"...

Of course, I would prefer the Audi 20 valve turbo 5 cylinder, because it makes slightly less torque than the 5.0, but at ridiculously low rpms... try peak torque at 1950 rpm! It's still a DOHC screamer, with excellent power and tuning potential.

The Audi 20V 5 cylinder requires new motor mounts, and a 931 bellhousing/clutch.