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DZGunner

Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 191 Location: Great white north
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:33 am Post subject: Ignition timing |
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I'm looking for the procedure to set the timing of my 80 turbo. I found this reference in the link on page 5 saying it needs to be set to 20 degrees before TDC. However after that it just says "vacuum hoses". No mention of whether or not i need to disconnect one or plug one into the other. So does anyone have this procedure? Thanks.
http://www.equipedic.se/docs/924/service/Porsche%20924%20Turbo%20Model%2080%20Service%20Information.pdf _________________ 1979 924 (Daily driver EFI)
1979 924 Sebring
1977 924
1977 924 (Parts) |
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rhialto

Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 24 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| It's vacuum hoses OFF[/img] |
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DZGunner

Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 191 Location: Great white north
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Both? _________________ 1979 924 (Daily driver EFI)
1979 924 Sebring
1977 924
1977 924 (Parts) |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Vacuum hoses off and plugged, 20 deg at 2000 rpm. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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DZGunner

Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 191 Location: Great white north
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys. It almost started tonight The fuel pump Isn't getting power so I'll investigate tomorrow. I jumped the pump to prime the system though to prevent an eternity of cranking. _________________ 1979 924 (Daily driver EFI)
1979 924 Sebring
1977 924
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DZGunner

Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 191 Location: Great white north
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Ok so the car runs but I can't tell what my advance is at all. I have the timing light on number 1 spark wire, have the engine idle, and I can't see a single mark on the fly wheel. I've tried many combinations of connected hoses and rotating the distributor, disconnected and plugged hoses and move distributor, even disconnected and connected and revving to around 2k RPM and adjusting and just nothing, No marks. I even painted the marks white and tried all this over again because I wanted to make sure I wasn't just missing them or something. The car idles just fine if I put the distributor in a certain range of adjustment but I cant see a SINGLE mark at all. Am I retarded? Am I blind? Am I losing my mind?
Z1 is TDC so that would be 0 degree's advance I'm assuming.
I just used the same timing light on my 79 NA and was able to see the marks and time it just fine.
What am I doing wrong? _________________ 1979 924 (Daily driver EFI)
1979 924 Sebring
1977 924
1977 924 (Parts) |
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Fasteddie313

Joined: 29 Sep 2013 Posts: 2595 Location: MI
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:32 am Post subject: |
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See if your flywheel mark is in the window when the notch in the crank pulley is lined up with the pointer on the front of the engine..
Maybe your flywheel was taken off at some point in time for a clutch job and not put back on in the correct clock position.. _________________ 80 Turbo - Slightly Modified |
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DZGunner

Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 191 Location: Great white north
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| Fasteddie313 wrote: | See if your flywheel mark is in the window when the notch in the crank pulley is lined up with the pointer on the front of the engine..
Maybe your flywheel was taken off at some point in time for a clutch job and not put back on in the correct clock position.. |
K, I'll try it but I think it's been lined up. I'll get back to this in a bit. _________________ 1979 924 (Daily driver EFI)
1979 924 Sebring
1977 924
1977 924 (Parts) |
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emoore924
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2822
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Ja, easy to turn the engine with a socket on the crank pulley on the front.
Line up the crank pulley with the pointer on the front, the dizzy rotor should point to #1 plug wire and the flywheel timing mark should be visible and aligned with the pointer in the window on the bell housing. |
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DZGunner

Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 191 Location: Great white north
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Everything lines up. Cam lines up with Z1 and front mark. I'm at a loss. _________________ 1979 924 (Daily driver EFI)
1979 924 Sebring
1977 924
1977 924 (Parts) |
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Rasta Monsta

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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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And rotor points to wire you are using on timing light? Do you have an advance timing light? _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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DZGunner

Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 191 Location: Great white north
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I managed to get it. The problem was something really stupid too. The timing light has an inductive amp clamp, so when I put it on spark wire 1, it rested over spark wire 2 and must have been picking up its signal and throwing it all off.
Jesus, the little things get me every time. Just like this tachometer problem im chasing, but may have found to be a crap connection behind the fuse/relay box.
Completely unrelated but I also found a coolant hose I forgot to tighten when I revved the engine and it shot off, blowing coolant everywhere .
I can only imagine your guys' impressions of me, lol. _________________ 1979 924 (Daily driver EFI)
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1977 924
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| DZGunner wrote: | | I can only imagine your guys' impressions of me, lol. |
Determined...a requirement for beater 931 resurrection. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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jazz guy

Joined: 26 Nov 2002 Posts: 434 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta wrote: | | Determined...a requirement for beater 931 resurrection. |
That's an understatement. Keep on plugging, you're doing great. It's good to see a 931 being brought back to life rather than scrapped/parted. _________________ '81/'81/'82 |
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