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ninpo4me  



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:22 am    Post subject: Newbie Euro conversion question Reply with quote

I have a '77 Martini & Rossi that I am nearly finished restoring. (Off to paint & body in March and I'm done!)

I am keeping the car completely OEM (or as close as possible) but I would love the extra power of the Euro models. I have removed most of the emission controls and added a Dansk muffler (no OEM NOS available). What else can I do to get the hp up to the Euro spec 120bhp? (In keeping within the only OEM world)

Thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Euro pistons (higher compression) and distributor (slightly more advance)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Row models have 125HP for the NA every HP counts
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Harm  



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiat22turbo wrote:
distributor

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Incase your M&R doesn't have one under the bonnet, on the driverside front-wing, an Ignition Control Module.
It should look similar to this: I'm not sure this is the right one we use overhere…
http://www.911used.com/car-detail/engine-computers/Porsche-Bosch-0227100010-Ignition-Control_291287878471.html

Can anyone else confirm this?
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snakoil  



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harm wrote:
fiat22turbo wrote:
distributor

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Incase your M&R doesn't have one under the bonnet, on the driverside front-wing, an Ignition Control Module.
It should look similar to this: I'm not sure this is the right one we use overhere…
http://www.911used.com/car-detail/engine-computers/Porsche-Bosch-0227100010-Ignition-Control_291287878471.html

Can anyone else confirm this?
Cheers,
Harm.

I was always wondering what this part was doing
Is there a different model between US and ROW that would help performance?
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Harm  



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Euro conversion question Reply with quote

Regarding your question Snakoil;
I guess they are the same.
Problem I wanted to point out is that Ninpo4me his M&R probably uses the Distributor that has points in them.
If he was to flip in a ROW distributor, he’d also needs to get the Transistorized ignition control unit

More on the Transistorized ignition control unit in the Haynes Workshop Manual

Chapter 5, Ignition and starting system
8 Ignition system - general description
12. This type of ignition circuitry is known as inductive discharge ignition. As the system requires no points which can arc. the 'switch off' condition happens very abruptly with no leakage of current. This means more power at the spark plug and a very rapid buildup of high current even at very high engine revs. In theory, no engine which relies on rotating mass as the means of producing power can turn faster than the ignition system can produce spark. Ignition remains 'dead on' at all times and under all conditions once it is set up correctly.


Different Distributers and their curves.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

think you need a head with larger valves too...
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