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Lau Christophersen  



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:59 am    Post subject: steel for 931 exhaust. Reply with quote

Simple question; which kind of stainless steel do i have to use for a new downpipe from the turbo?
Is 304 stainless steel hard enough for the heat coming from the engine or?
My local smith do not know it and asked me to find out before he starts on my new exhaust he was talking about some kind of "tempered stainless steel".
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely gets 1000+...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on this and the fact I've seen our turbos glow red in daylight, I agree.

http://www.hearth.com/talk/wiki/know-temperature-when-metal-glows-red/
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

304 is the cheaper stainless used for exhausts, 321 is better. Inconel is what Porsche used, its more expensive though.
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Lau Christophersen  



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your answers. Do you guys know if there are any places where I can buy a 3" downpipe(76mm) for the 931?
It is just for checking the prices it dont need to be stainless steel but the custom one i was asking my Smith to make will be around 1200$ for pipes and Work so i want to check some alternatives before i order it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a reason you don't like the factory piece? Surely one of the nicest you could get.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because the rest of the exhaust system is in 76 mm pipes, and i thought that it would be best to make it the same size directly from the turbo.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jason c wrote:
304 is the cheaper stainless used for exhausts, 321 is better. Inconel is what Porsche used, its more expensive though.


our downpipe is Inconel?

if so, A+++ to Porsche..

what about the dump pipe and j pipe?

does Inconel weld to steel easily? it surely isn't Inconel all the way to the flange after the cat is it?
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Rasta Monsta  



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Downpipe ends prior to the cat. J-pipe may very well be the same material. . .sorta has that feel.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The down, j, and dump are inconel. The flanges are steel. You should use a 625 rod to weld inconel to dissimilar metals (stainless, carbon & low alloy steel). Using regular steel wire will likely crack. The next best thing to inconel for turbocharged & high heat applications is 321 stainless. 304 stainless is better than plain steel but not great for high heat.
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