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ThomasJoseph315 · Guest

I think I found a spare,.. I need to find a way to haul it.

snakoil · Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 362 Location: Montreal, Canada

it's a 4 cylinder so can't be that bad
I was able to lift up alone a Toyota 4AGE and put it in my trunk.(gotta love station wagons)
i would suggest putting a piece of wood in your trunk bottom if you don't want to brake your oem floor cardboard piece.
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morghen · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania

924 engine is quite heavy...you need two guys to move it, you need two strong guys to lift it 1m from the ground.
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ideola · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI

I think a complete long-block is somwhere in the 300-350 pound range.
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nickthompson · Joined: 26 Mar 2013 Posts: 873 Location: Central Georgia

I towed a 1999 Passat 90+ miles on a tow dolly with a 3.0 Ford Ranger

Ok no more posting right after I wake up. I totally missed the part about it being an engine and not a whole car.

ThomasJoseph315 · Guest

How much power could you get out of one of these n.a. 924 if it was built right?

fiat22turbo · Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR

180hp and it will be a high strung grenade that needs race gas to survive a race weekend.
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Cedric · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2807 Location: Sweden

Obviously a huge amount with a good turbo setup.. Ive seen 136kg as an official number, but that is probably a euro spec engine. Don't know how much extra crap the us version have ☺
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nickthompson · Joined: 26 Mar 2013 Posts: 873 Location: Central Georgia

fiat22turbo · Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR

Sveina · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 92 Location: Norway/Sweden

Cedric · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2807 Location: Sweden

Seems like my memory is correct. But engine weight is always tricky, since it depends on what you count into it, but until anything else is presented I trust the factory figures

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Engine weight is supposed to be 166kg in the 944. According to factory numbers..
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924RACR · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject:

Yeah, between the crank and the block, it adds up quick. The rest, other than the stock cast iron exhaust manifold, isn't too bad for mass.

Regarding power - I imagine that with modern engine controls - and especially some other modern technologies that could be added in - it wouldn't be too hard to build an NA up in the range of 160-170 hp without it being a time-bomb.
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Fifty50Plus · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:37 am Post subject:

I've been reading the rules for an SCCA F Production 924 build and am not sure that we can get close to 160 HP. The restrictions include no porting beyond and inch from mating surfaces, 10.5:1 compression ratio, max cam lift of 1/2 inch and mandatory use of the stock throttle body. On the plus side, we can replace the CIS and use crank fire. Seems like air flow is the killer for HP.

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924RACR · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:42 am Post subject:

I wasn't talking about adhering to any such rules.

But yeah, there's a reason my car never turned into a Prod car...
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