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931 stalls when mixture setting hole uncovered...

 
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coldwarvet  



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:01 am    Post subject: 931 stalls when mixture setting hole uncovered... Reply with quote

idles normal, good throttle response, goes like a scalded cat...would just like to set the mixture while it is running...can find absolutely no vacuum leaks, throttle plate centered and where it's supposed to be...I guess most who are familiar with these cars would say "leave it alone"...rather puzzling is all...control pressure maybe?

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Rasta Monsta  



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plug out creates vacuum leak. . .

but i am always an advocate of testing pressures
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh... good to know...

my car never had that plug since I bought it.. better make one up
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been of the impression these engines should run with the plug out...and very close to where they should be mixture-wise...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine runs.. I don't know how well yet though..
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The removeable screw must be in place to allow the car to run without vacuum leak. The plastic bung on top of the screw is just to stop dirt and grime accumulating or screw rusting tight.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so I need a screw and a plug...

I shall examine it
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 931 stalls when mixture setting hole uncovered... Reply with quote

coldwarvet wrote:
idles normal, good throttle response, goes like a scalded cat...would just like to set the mixture while it is running...can find absolutely no vacuum leaks, throttle plate centered and where it's supposed to be...I guess most who are familiar with these cars would say "leave it alone"...rather puzzling is all...control pressure maybe?

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1980 931 roadster, locking snail shell
forced-air intercooled
crane cams fireball turbo ign
boost control
Tial wastegate
water/alcohol injection
1986 dodge conquest TSI , 14B/12A hybrid turbo, Innovate
1986 E/P 944
!983 Ferrari euro-spec gray mkt 316hp gtsi quattrovalvole


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Carrera RSR  



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will never run right without the screw in the hole. It has a vacuum leak. Put your finger in the hole to hear the difference. If you can't hear the difference your engines not running well in the first place.
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