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Would You Consider Buying This Engine As A Replacement?

 
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gohim  



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:37 am    Post subject: Would You Consider Buying This Engine As A Replacement? Reply with quote

What would you offer (if anything) for a 84 944 engine with 62K original miles on it with the original timing and balance shaft belts, as well as the original waterpump, and rollers and pulleys?

Seller says the clutch was replaced about 10K-12K miles ago with a parts cost of about $900 in 1990, and he doesn't know if it's a rubber centered clutch disc or if it has springs.

Engine is still in the car, and the Seller says he can run it for potential buyers.

Sellers says that there is no reason to replace the waterpump, rollers, pulleys or seals, and he has never heard of the belts breaking before 60K miles or changing the belts based on age.

Seller says he parked the car 20 years ago after he ran into the back of it with his tractor. Seller says he is the 2nd owner of this car.

He's asking $600 obo for the engine. What do you think?
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joecitizennn  



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As with anything it depends on the buyer. I have paid less than 600 for complete cars with good engines, but engines by themselves can bring 500 to 1500 depending on who is asking and who is buying. I wouldnt buy it because I dont need it, I have one sitting in my garage.

All in all the story behind the engine sounds fishy though..
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Grenadiers  



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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might want to check out 944spec.org, and get in touch with 944 owners in your area. You might find a guy parting out his racecar, or, have spare engines on hand.
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Slam  



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, $600 for a long block 944 engine is not a bad price. I'd offer $500. You're still gonna have to do all the standard maintenance, but you know that. One thing you'd be disappointed in is the performance. The early 944 engines had a lower comp ratio than your 924S, and a less aggressive cam too. The late cam is a nice upgrade for the early engine, but getting the CR up requires changing the pistons. If you just need a spare engine 'in case' then this isn't a bad deal. It's true that complete cars can be had for around the same prie, but then you're the one pulling the engine...
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Timmay!  



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can shave the head on the early piston cars and match the HP and comp-ratio of the 88 piston cars.
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Rasta Monsta  



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

. . .all while retarding cam timing. . .unless you use an illegal offset cam key.


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Timmay!  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but as explained by Jon Milledge, the shave is worth more than the valve timing change loss.
I just did a 944 spec legal engine with max shaved head and it made 140 at the rear wheels. Very healthy.
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Rasta Monsta  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!
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mehall  



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rasta Monsta wrote:
. . .all while retarding cam timing. . .unless you use an illegal offset cam key.



What is an illegal offset cam key and why would I do that? What is the + to doing it?
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