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icemansam88  



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Where is the alternator Reply with quote

Alternator
I have a 1987 Porsche 924s that I have had for a few months when I got a flat tire and it sat for a month or two. Well I got the tire fixed and was ready to run and it wouldn’t start!!! The first thing I did was get the jeep and jump the Porsche, well it started up but sounded like it wasn’t getting enough electric. I took the cables off and it died slowly, so I put the cables on started the Porsche and left the jumper cables on for about 20 minutes, when I took them off again it ran for about 15 seconds and died again. I am thinking it’s the alternator, so I did some searching and read somewhere that the best place to get access to the alternator is under the passenger seat through an access door. Does anyone know if this is correct before I tare my seat out?
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Harm  



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: Where is the alternator Reply with quote

icemansam88 wrote:
Alternator
I have a 1987 Porsche 924s…
and read somewhere that the best place to get access to the alternator is under the passenger seat through an access door…
Does anyone know if this is correct before I tare my seat out?

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Alternator placed at three o'clock IIRC, the fan-thing attached to a belt.

When was the last time it got it's Front of Engine Service (FOES)?
That should be first on your list!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to answer your question, the alternator is at the front of the engine driven by one of the exposed belts, and is accessed by removing the undertray.
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icemansam88  



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Where is the alternator Reply with quote

When was the last time it got it's Front of Engine Service (FOES)?
That should be first on your list!

Not to sound like a complete dumb as... Could you explain what you mean by FOES and I dont mean Front of Engine Service, lol I mean what type of service does this include?

Thanks for taking the time to explain
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timing belt, tensioner, water pump, seals.

Here's some handy technical steps to help out:

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/repair-procedure-index4.htm

Start by reading up on the maintenance interval for the timing belt:

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/eng-04.htm

If this isn't followed, the timing belt could fail and the pistons will hit the valves and do some pretty serious damage to the internals of your engine.

Here's how you change the belt:

First remove the belt:

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/eng-05.htm

Then install and tension the belt:

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/eng-06.htm

And BTW, here's the alternator replacement steps:

http://www.clarks-garage.com/shop-manual/elect-01.htm

If you search online you can find some videos and pictures that describe the details.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: Where is the alternator Reply with quote

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Thank you Stefan.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROTFLMAO
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Has anyone heard of this Reply with quote

Today I spoke to a porsche mecn who told me that the reason my 924 wont start isnt because my alternator is died, it could because my battery is so died that the alternator doesnt see it and wont charge to it. Has anyone else heaard of this?
Thanks for all your posts
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Alternators won't charge a battery, only really maintain their charge. If the battery is dead, then you'll need to charge it with a real battery charger or you could damage the alternator.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: AFTER LAST NIGHT Reply with quote

Hello all,
Last night I switched batterys from my jeep to the porsche and it started right up, now as soon as I took the negitive cable off the battery it died. After that i figured it was my altanator and put the battery back into my jeep which after I tried to start the jeep, it started but you could tell that the porsche really drained it. So it looks like I am going after a new alternator tonight...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it wasn't the alternator, it most likely was as soon as you removed that cable with the motor running.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whuh?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removing the battery from a running engine with alternator removes the reference voltage, which the alternator uses to control the voltage output.

Without the reference voltage, the alternator's output voltage is uncontrolled, and it will self-destruct.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would have been a much more interesting post if you had torn your seat out and cut a hole in the floor before posting.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hee hee...
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