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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed that my entire emissions control systems have been bypassed on my 77 924 by the previous owner. While reading in the tech section, I read something that said the only reason the vacuum amplifier/resevoir exists is to run the [now defunct] EGR valve. Can I safely remove everything (temperature switch, vacuum amplifier, vacuum resevoir) and just run the brake booster and vacuum advance off the intake manifold. If so, is there an ideal sequence to connect these necessary vaccum devices up?

Also, part of my check valve was left on the manifold (haynes says its hand tightened - I had to use a 3 foot handle on my ratchet to get it to break free). Previous to my removal of it, the valve let exhaust gases into the engine bay. I was hoping to plug this up - either with a bolt or an engine plug - and was wondering if this would cause any problems.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

old post but I have the same question about the Vacuum lines. Also Im switching over the brake Master cylinder from the 924S does the Vacuum Booster also need to be moved over or can I use the one on my 77? I have been reading in the searched articles and there is a lot of talk about the MC but not so much on the Vacuum Booster can anyone explain. Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the 924S master cylinder has a stepped bore, whereas your 924 master cylinder does not. Therefore, it is not a compatible swap. In order to use your 924S master cylinder, you need to bring over the brakes as well (calipers), and also re-route the brake lines from the X configuration to the TT configuration. Otherwise your bias will be all wrong, at least, and at worst you'll have uneven braking on the left and right sides of your car.

And the vacuum booster is sized relative to the bore of your master cylinder, so you'd want to swap that over too.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

!tom Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:06 am Post subject:

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I believe the 924S master cylinder has a stepped bore, whereas your 924 master cylinder does not. Therefore, it is not a compatible swap. In order to use your 924S master cylinder, you need to bring over the brakes as well (calipers), and also re-route the brake lines from the X configuration to the TT configuration. Otherwise your bias will be all wrong, at least, and at worst you'll have uneven braking on the left and right sides of your car.

And the vacuum booster is sized relative to the bore of your master cylinder, so you'd want to swap that over too.


Sorry I should have mentioned that I have switched over the 5 lug setup. Do you think it will make that much difference if I use the existing brake lines?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

!tom wrote:
I believe the 924S master cylinder has a stepped bore, whereas your 924 master cylinder does not. Therefore, it is not a compatible swap.


Correct. Simple solution: 1980 or later MC and booster (hopefully known good from same donor).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyfighter123 wrote:

Sorry I should have mentioned that I have switched over the 5 lug setup. Do you think it will make that much difference if I use the existing brake lines?

It makes a HUGE difference if you use an X configuration with a stepped MC, as that will cause your brakes to be very unsafe. The stepped MC requires a TT brake line routing, no two ways about it. The non-stepped MC can be routed in either configuration on a 924, but must be routed as TT when using 944 front end pieces (which you presumably don't have).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing - I believe the 1980 brake MC is a one-off year-wise. I got a rebuild kit for the Yellowjacket and it cost me around $100 (maybe more, can't recall) or so and nobody in the US stocked it. It came from Germany. Perhaps start your search for an 81 MC and skip the 80.

Just my $.02CDN.
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