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owenexile

Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 333 Location: Australia , Bunbury
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: VW : Struts/Shocks Help |
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I got my car yellow stickerd and had to take it over the pits again. The guy failed me for having about 1cm of play in my struts when the car is jacked up. A mechanic friend of mine told me all the VW Struts got that play in it , is this True or do i need to replace my struts? Im scared if i do replace it and i still got that play in it the guy would have wasted $300 of my money!!
Thanks _________________ 924 1982 N/A
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Play in what direction? _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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owenexile

Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 333 Location: Australia , Bunbury
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Just up and down , But im just gno replace the "Bushings" Then put some of new "watery grease" in there and take it back and tell the inspecter guy i did replace it.
But im still Wondering about the play? _________________ 924 1982 N/A
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Is it a VW, or a Porsche?
VWs do have some play when you jack the car up, because they don't have strut mounts that are bolted to the inner fenders like the 924/931/924S/944/951 family does. |
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joecitizennn

Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 2096 Location: no mans land
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| They ream yourass in the name of safety. Typical government. |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Ha that basterd safety dude. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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owenexile

Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 333 Location: Australia , Bunbury
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| gohim wrote: | Is it a VW, or a Porsche?
VWs do have some play when you jack the car up, because they don't have strut mounts that are bolted to the inner fenders like the 924/931/924S/944/951 family does. |
Im sorry Mate , English isnt my 1st Language , but do u mean that i should have the play in my strut? On the Strut theres a VW stamp on it , so im confused? _________________ 924 1982 N/A
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gohim
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| Are you asking about front struts that are installed in a 924, OR front struts that are installed in a VW (like a Jetta or Golf)? |
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owenexile

Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 333 Location: Australia , Bunbury
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| gohim wrote: | | Are you asking about front struts that are installed in a 924, OR front struts that are installed in a VW (like a Jetta or Golf)? |
Im asking about the front struts on the 924 , but since it got that VW stamp on , im confused _________________ 924 1982 N/A
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owenexile

Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 333 Location: Australia , Bunbury
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ok , im going to just "re-oil" my struts , which type of oil do i get and how much do i use per strut?
Thanks _________________ 924 1982 N/A
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9XX Girl!

Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1617 Location: Cornish Riviera SW England
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Motorcycle Fork Oil (Med/Heavy 15W) 250ml per side
(new oil is a good investment as the stock shocks are made by Koni, much better quality than some after-market insert for £100 per side)
But if you have play, be sure to clean the valves in the shock while you have it apart.
How-to / Stock Shock Absorber Refurbishment _________________ 924 (84) N/A 2 ltr - 5 Speed - BLACK - Project (looking for 200BHP, any ideas!)
924 (81) N/A 2 ltr - 3 Speed Auto - SURINAM RED (Metallic) - Near Original Spec (sticking with originality)
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owenexile

Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 333 Location: Australia , Bunbury
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| 9XX Girl! wrote: | Motorcycle Fork Oil (Med/Heavy 15W) 250ml per side
(new oil is a good investment as the stock shocks are made by Koni, much better quality than some after-market insert for £100 per side)
But if you have play, be sure to clean the valves in the shock while you have it apart.
How-to / Stock Shock Absorber Refurbishment |
Ok , Got the oil , Got my O-rings (lower one i could not find so i got a round one and when i pushed it in it cut some of the "round-ish" bit off now its also flat and its a nice fit)
When do i put in the oil? Do i poor it in before putting the last part on before screwing it close? ( the part with the top O-ring)
Thanks _________________ 924 1982 N/A
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9XX Girl!

Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1617 Location: Cornish Riviera SW England
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Be carful about cutting seals
I would guess that the play you have been talking about is free movement before and resistance kicks in when extending and compressing the shock. This is more likely to be the bottom or plunger valve not closing quick enough due to crap. The bottom one is more prone to this as this is where the sediment sits from aged oil. Take them apart and clean them in coca-cola. The plunger seal sits baggy anyway, (a bit like a piston ring) but will seal once in. Its a bit fiddly to get back in the tube as you have to compress it with your fingers.
The "o-ring" on the top cap will be fine if you have had to trim it a little.
Put the end valve on the bottom of the tube, put the plunger in the tube, place the assembly in the strut leg, push the plunger down so the shock is compressed, pour in the oil, (it doesn't matter if you get some in the outer as well as the inner of the tube) then push the top assembly with oil seal into the top of the strut. This is a bit fiddly as the top cap centralizes the inner tube. Then screw the retaining cap down.
You then need to extend and compress the shock a couple of times to prime it. _________________ 924 (84) N/A 2 ltr - 5 Speed - BLACK - Project (looking for 200BHP, any ideas!)
924 (81) N/A 2 ltr - 3 Speed Auto - SURINAM RED (Metallic) - Near Original Spec (sticking with originality)
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owenexile

Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 333 Location: Australia , Bunbury
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Hey
9xxGirl , can u mayb tell me how that valve(the one which doenst need the bolt removed to get out) comes together again?
Ive put evrything back again , and now my strut goes down easy and comes out really hard. If im correct the strut needs to go in and out equally hard?
Thanks _________________ 924 1982 N/A
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9XX Girl!

Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1617 Location: Cornish Riviera SW England
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| owenexile wrote: | Hey
9xxGirl , can u mayb tell me how that valve(the one which doenst need the bolt removed to get out) comes together again?
Ive put evrything back again , and now my strut goes down easy and comes out really hard. If im correct the strut needs to go in and out equally hard?
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Ok if it goes down easy but comes up with resistance its the bottom valve not closing correctly.
Correct me if i am wrong? You want to know the order of assembly for these parts.
Don't tell me you have taken BOTH apart without noting the order.
You are lucky, i have one that is not in a strut. I will take it apart and post pics, but it may take a couple of days as i'm up to my eyeballs _________________ 924 (84) N/A 2 ltr - 5 Speed - BLACK - Project (looking for 200BHP, any ideas!)
924 (81) N/A 2 ltr - 3 Speed Auto - SURINAM RED (Metallic) - Near Original Spec (sticking with originality)
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