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[POOCH]

1980 931 where do I start? When in school my book reports actually read longer than the book itself. I'll do my best to be concise. 10 years ago after owning this car for a few years my first child was born and the car got parked. There is sat until last month. Now you all should know I spent my four years of High School shop classes in the wood working dept. Armed with a Haynes Repair Manual a set of Craftsman tools and this web page I got started.
Drained the tank and flushed it out, blew out the fuel lines and replaced fuel filter. Put in new spark plugs read about gaping here and replaced the oil and air filter. And with a new battery I'll be dammed it started right up. Went to try the clutch it went straight to the floor with fluid on my shoe. Read some more from you guys and ordered a master and slave and supply line. Getting the master out and back in again was no easy task. Trying to remove the starter to get to the slave and the 19mm bolt mounted so close the the housing couldn't get a wrench in there. Pretty much gave up on it and thought maybe the slave is still good leave it in there. Then when trying to bleed the system the bleeder valve gets stripd. Have no choice now took a perfectly good open end and ground it down to a real narrow wall allowing the wrench over the 0 clearance 19mm bolt. A couple taps from the rubber mallet and out she comes. The slave is now next and if you can believe it the ridgid supply line strips the last nut before dropping the slave with a brand new one sitting right here I can't get the nut to give. Now if armed with a replacment line I'd just cut through the old one and get busy installing. I don't have one so to my disgust the old slave stayed on after all. Fabricated a 1" cutoff of a 17 mm allen wrench to reach the fill hole in the snail shell tranny and replaced with sae 90 almost three quarts. Put a 3/8 in. clear rubber hose to the quart bottle tip the other end in the fill hole. Took a metal awe and punched a hole in the bottom flipped it up and with a compressor air nozzel pumped up the plastic bottle. 40 seconds per quart, done. Bled the brakes and sprayed the calipers with brake cleaner Now two questions ..Did I over look anything pressing to be done to a car sitting for 10 years?
And the reason I'm writing this is while taking the car out for the first time in 10 years not really pleased that the clutch it doesn't engage until nearly to the floor board. The car seeming to perform fine suddenly while cruising, in I believe 4th gear this god awful grinding sound starts the car loses power and engaging the clutch does nothing. I coast to a slower speed the whole time the cars grinding I shift to second the grinding stops and the car powers up then to third and fourth with no sign of anything having just happened. I'm getting a rattle in the shift linkage while applying pressure by hand to the shifter the noise stops. I imagine its the bushings in the linkage and I'm about to order I think it's four of those and that should be pretty straight forward after I find a post on how that's done but what of this grinding noise right out of the blue. The car seems to be performing fine and then almost as if something slips out of place and this grinding noise. I went straight back home with it and there it sits until I know what you guys think. Thanks

[Tas931]

not trying to be rude but you should probably brake that up a bit so that it is easier for people to read.

people are more likely to read it that way.

Cheers,

Tas

[Mike924]

Can you tell roughly where the grinding sound is coming from? Front, rear? Left, right?
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[924guy]

my eyes hurt , somebody post the cliff notes so I can try and help...

I did get "grinding sound" and am going to take a leap and say check rear wheel bearings. they can do some strange things and sometime make noise only when moving under load, making you think its coming from the torque tube or transaxle.
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[D Hook]

Missed the part where you changed the timing belt. Living dangerously?

I don't think I'd start it again until the belt is replaced.
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[Rich H]

What he said replace the timing belt adn tensionner ASAP.

As for grinding noises in the gearbox it might be anything. Change the belt and drie again see if it reoccurs?
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1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec

[924RACR]

Here, I'm gonna do this as a public service...

[924RACR]

Not sure about that grinding noise.

But before you even try to put a timing belt on it:

Get yourself a good set of metric tools!!!

Most of your problems are right there, from the get-go - you're trying to work on a very sophisticated car with what sounds like a very rudimentary set of tools.

I've never experienced the problems you describe, but I do have a wide range of metric tools.

You will need the same. Period.
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[POOCH]

Hey thanks for all the constructive comments. Actually can't imagine how I couldn't have mentioned it during my novel but did replace the timing belt just prior to storing it. Though if that wasn't done right that would result in engine symptoms not grinding of the gears right. I realize a grinding sound could be one of many problems I just thought somone might recognize this particular case. Thanks again for the imput!

[PORSCHEV]

Very painful to read..try Bullets next time.

This is what was wrong
- this
-this

This is what I did to fix them
-this
-this

From what I get out of it.... you left the old slave cylinder in the car and rounded off the bleeder.
-you now have air in the system. There fore you can't disengage the clutch fully.
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[DOCO]

the grinding noise is probly coming from trans.they can partially disconect the gear they are in.could be linkage,could be a mount and the moter shifts and pulls it partly out of gear.take it for anouther drive and if it does this again make sure the shifter goes to neutral,even if yoiu have to do ityour self.see if you can stop the noise by moving shifter or just downshift it to third.if the noise gose away its linkage ,mount ,internaltransprob
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[Joes924Racer]

Was gonna ramble bout noises bearings can make when driving
i had a set of the inner let go ...well the sound thay made was thunderous.

Now bout getting the slave, you can do it, buddy. Now beside a metric
tool set you need a vacum pump and replace the bleeders with speed
bleeders. You can now get the air out of the brake sys.
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[Mike924]

^+1!
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