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Patrick
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 Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: Re-keying my 1979 door lock: Some questions |
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Hi all!
Yes, i did my reading of older posts on this, but had a few questions, so as to hopefully build my confidence, not just in successfully doing the job, but rather that i only have one extra handle to use tumbler pins from, and will have to source another handle or tumbler for parts from overseas should i loose or destroy a tumbler spring or tumbler pin. NOTE: Handle is off my car.
So on to my questions:
So i remove the screw holding the cam and spring on to the tumbler lock. 1) Is it best to keep the key inserted fully in the tumbler lock before pulling out the tumbler lock from the door handle, so as to minimize or in fact prevent the tumbler pins and springs from popping out accidentally?
2) Anybody know if the tumbler springs and tumbler pins from a 1979 VW Passat (Dasher in the U.S.) work for the 1979 924 handles, any other VW tumbler locks/pins/springs work with my 924?
3) Given my parts accessibility "hardship", should i even attempt this? I fear more that i might run out of enough correctly sized tumbler pins (even assuming none of the tumbler pins/springs are worn), or is an extra handle enough to do the job?
I understand that there are 7 pins/tumbler lock with only 4 sizes. So having only 1 extra handle to take pins from gives me a total of only 14 pins! Should or shouldnt i? THANKS!
Patrick
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ideola
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Why not just take it to a locksmith?
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Harm
Joined: 02 Apr 2009
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Location: Holland
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Re-keying my 1979 door lock: Some questions |
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| Patrick wrote: | Hi all!
Yes, i did my reading of older posts on this, but had a few questions, so as to hopefully build my confidence, not just in successfully doing the job, but rather that i only have one extra handle to use tumbler pins from, and will have to source another handle or tumbler for parts from overseas should i loose or destroy a tumbler spring or tumbler pin. NOTE: Handle is off my car.
So on to my questions:
So i remove the screw holding the cam and spring on to the tumbler lock. 1) Is it best to keep the key inserted fully in the tumbler lock before pulling out the tumbler lock from the door handle, so as to minimize or in fact prevent the tumbler pins and springs from popping out accidentally?
2) Anybody know if the tumbler springs and tumbler pins from a 1979 VW Passat (Dasher in the U.S.) work for the 1979 924 handles, any other VW tumbler locks/pins/springs work with my 924?
3) Given my parts accessibility "hardship", should i even attempt this? I fear more that i might run out of enough correctly sized tumbler pins (even assuming none of the tumbler pins/springs are worn), or is an extra handle enough to do the job?
I understand that there are 7 pins/tumbler lock with only 4 sizes. So having only 1 extra handle to take pins from gives me a total of only 14 pins! Should or shouldnt i? THANKS!
Patrick |
Hi Patrick;
1. Best to be save; Yes, keep the key inside to prevent the blades from popping. (Fair chance though its gunked by old grease)
2. VW have used these locks until the mid ninetees on various models IIRC, with the tumbler pin aka wafel tumbler. Passat locks wouldn't be very different I guess 'cause they all use the same parts bin.
3. Yes, but make sure you get hold on some extra door locks? Maybe there are some extra ones in the gloove compartment lock you can use instead; I haven't checked that lock yet (you probably might look into that lock first before you start, since you probably don't use it anaway?).
TIP ONE: When you run out of pins, its possible to leaf some empty… 
TIP TWO: Or, another solution here http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4206794&postid=54804430#54804430
| Big CADDY wrote: | “there is an easy fix for this. little trick I came up with.
Find the key that works the ignition.
Remove the locks from the handles that don't work with that key.
Put the key into the lock. All the wrong tumblers will poke out.
Place lock on a grinder and remove the protruding tumbers edges.
Clean the tumblers of grindings and relube
Reassemble and enjoy one key for all doors.
 ” |
Harsh, but does the trick!
Take some pics: Might look good in a ‘How-To’. Good luck.
Cheers, Harm.
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Patrick
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Ideola-
As i said, parts situation for the 924 here is poor, if your lucky to find any parts, you`l be charged an arm and a leg (and some..).
Although if old VW lock pins/springs can be substituted then its not as hard as there are decent amounts of old VW`s around.
So even the locksmith may not have access to parts, unless of course you meant for him to grind away at the pins.
THANKS for you reply anyway!
Hey Harm-
THANKS for the suggestions and informative link!
I am on a relatively tight budget and see this as a chance to learn (one reason i like old cars) as i consider myself a novice. Cheers!
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