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Nobbi  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:41 am    Post subject: Front wheel slack... Reply with quote

Before i started for my weekend spin in the 924 i checked my tires and i noticed a kind of slack in both front wheels.I could move them about half a inch in -+Y dir. They seem to be pretty "loose"!?
Never had a issue with them in the last 15 years, so, are the wheelbearings shoot or is it possible to re-adjust them?
Thanks in advance,
Nobbi
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the direction of movement. push and pull on the top of the tire and find play it could be wheel bearings, balljoints or strut play either in the shock or strut bushing. Push and pull on the front or the rear of the tire and find play, it could be wheel bearings or tie rod. Either the tie rod balljoint or the tie rod bushing in the rack. Jacking up the vehicle and moving the wheel will give you a better idea of what you are dealing with. I check my wheel bearing tension every two oil changes. If you have never re-tensioned your wheel bearings now would be a good time.
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Nobbi  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Joe, sounds like a good advice.Check it tomorrow, wheels hanging down....

BTW, i made a trip to the Wiesmann factory this afternoon, whow, these guys build exellent cars......they use the 8Cyl,from the M3 BMW and put it in their cars....Just gorgeous,

Check out google if you dont know them....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres a few links from a quicke search Nobbi. Fiest ones a factory tour 2nd is a blue gt mf 5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4FSgRVc1D8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV2myowUKp0&feature=related
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Nobbi  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe, clear that you like the blue colour.... i have seen that white one in person this afternoon and it looked really great.....but, the price tag says 145.000.- euros approximately ´200.000 $ US ......but still love the engine sound....even when all the puplic turned the heads as i left with the 924......!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red flag! Thats a massive amount of bearing movement. Well beyond simple bearing ajustment. Are you feeling ball joint/top mount movement too?
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Nobbi  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as i am driving on a flat paved road it is nearly not to detect, but when you hit some rough spots on the road you will feel some movement in the steering wheel and it gets somehow uncontrolled.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IC. well get it jacked up and grab the wheel and pull on it like it like your life depended on it...no play no worries.
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RC  



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the front jacked up under the cross member & both wheels off the ground, move, shake each wheel like JC said. Helps to have another person rock the wheel while you examine possible causes.

Does each wheel have its own movement or do they both move together more or less? Individually could be wheel bearings, balljoint, tie rod end, upper strut mount or possibly A arm bushes. If they both move by rocking one wheel look at the steering rack & mounts, or more likely the intermediate shaft with the 2 universal joints.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobbi wrote:
As long as i am driving on a flat paved road it is nearly not to detect, but when you hit some rough spots on the road you will feel some movement in the steering wheel and it gets somehow uncontrolled.


that sounds a little dangerous. I would check it ASAP.
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Nobbi  



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it makes me feel unsafe....
about 5 years ago i played with that screw on the steering mechanism
that controls the "stiffness" (not the stiffmaster , Freaks!!) off the steering mech.I adusted it to a point where it has nearly no force to bring the steering back to driving forward.....
I will see what is going on in while

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