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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: Buying Rims- Need help!! |
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Hi guys, I'm going to look/buy some turbo twist rims tomorrow morning. I need to know if theses will fit. They are 7x17 205/55/ZR17 in front and 8.5x17 255/50/ZR17 in the back. I've being looking for data on offsets, calculates and so forth online to help me out. I looked at the wheel tread 3-4 times on here. I Know flosho has them on his 931 which is different then my 87 924S with a late offset. I talk to the guys dad on the phone, he didn't know anything about the wheels, he measure them to be 7.5x17 & 9x17, but I think he's measuring the rubber, not the rim. He didn't know the offsets, so I'll look tomorrow to see if they are right. I believe that turbos twist that are 7x17 & 8.5x17 have offsets of 55 in front and 50 in back. Anyone out there offhand knows about the fitment? Thanks guys _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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Nein37

Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 513 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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The 931 and 924S have the same offset requirements. A 924S is not considered "late offset", its simply early offset with a narrow body. Standard offset for the 924S is 52et so you should be just fine regarding offset, however, I would be a little concerned with the inside spacing. Why not drive the 924S there and mount them up before you buy them?
BTW, white 924S' rock. Nice car. _________________ 1981 931 CGT replica, OEM CGT intercooler, .8 BAR WG spring, GTS Headlights, Innovative Wide band A/F, A/C delete, 16" Fuchs, Weltmeister 200lb lowering springs, Bilstein HDs front, Koni Sport rears. |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Nein for the info. I would drive my S over there if I could, it's in storage and snowed in a driveway 100yrds and about 6-8in of snow. I tried getting it out about a week ago, went 20ft and started spinning, there's no weight in the back with 1/4 of a tank of fuel.
So 52et is a good offset, that's good to know. So if flosho has them on his 931, then "theoretically" with a little fender rolling I should be able to make them work... fingers crossed...
As for the white 924's.... I agree, I think they look the best in white  _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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flosho

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 3160 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Jayzzzz4, they should fit, but you WILL have to massage the fenders in the rear a bit. I have the exact same size tires. I guess it would also depend on the amount of negative camber in the rear and if you have the rear lowered, but they will fit. _________________ [This Space For Rent] |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't lowed it, so I think it's at factory settings. I guess the only thing is that I have some KYB struts in back that seem a little on the soft side, but I can always buy stiffer ones. Thanks for your input. _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Well, looked at the wheels today, I didn't buy them because the back wheels are 17X9 and the tires are 10"wide. The offset is 55et. Flosho, how much room do you have in back? Think 9's are too big? _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:48 am Post subject: |
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9 inch rims or 9 inch tires? I have 8" D90s and they are very close to rubbing without rolled fenders. I don't know the inside clearance, but I would be really surprised if you could fit 9s on the back of a narrow body. I have 9" rims with ~10" wide tires on the 941, and they barely fit. FWIW. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:02 am Post subject: |
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The rims say 17X9 on the inside, but measuring with a ruler on top, they are 10"(sidewall to sidewall). So you say it's a no go? Your 941 has a wider body and they bearly fit.... Mmmm This could be a good excuse to go GT  _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Why use a ruler, divide 255 mm by 25.4 mm/in = 10 inches?
The front tires and wheels are a perfect fit on all 4 corners. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: | | Why use a ruler, divide 255 mm by 25.4 mm/in = 10 inches? |
+1
Didn't think about that when I was looking at them. Things like that come with age!~
So I've been looking at the wheel tread and was looking at RaceBoys OEM Cup 1 wheels from 965, 7x17 front (225/45) and 9x17 rear (255/40). I did a little research and found that OEM Cups 9x17's have 55et, same as the twists. But he goes on and says | Quote: | | If one uses them on 924S (alloy rear arms) it will need more rolling as those have a bit wider track. | Say if they don't fit, would buying a different trailing arms help a little?
I would rather have 7 or 7.5" wheels in the back, but this rims are selling at a very good price and don't want to miss out on it. If they don't fit, I'm pretty sure I could sell them and make a profit still, or keep the fronts and sell the backs.  _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on the tires and type of wheels I may be interested in the rears. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I don't know the name brand offhand, but the back tires need to be replaced. I can't remember exactly, but i would say they are around 40-30% tread left which is fine for me, cause I only put on 1000-1500 miles a year. So if you want the backs for rubber, they aren't really worth it. But if you want the rims, I'll be willing to buy them a little bit more. I'm just a little worried about not finding two more wheels with out paying an arm or a leg for them. _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Here's some wheels:
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/pts/1588209376.html _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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AppleBit

Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 1516 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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bnoon
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 607 Location: West Des Moines, IA USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: | | Why use a ruler, divide 255 mm by 25.4 mm/in = 10 inches? |
That's a good way to get into the ballpark, but not all 255mm wide tires have the same section width, and it also depends on what width rim the tires are mounted on. There's no standard to which manufacturer's must adhere to for rating their own tire sizes. Some measure 255 as the absolute aover all width of the entire tread, some measure it as the width to where the tread starts to curve down towards the sidewall. I have some 235/40/18 RE01-R's that are 9.9 inches wide on a 9.5 inch rim.
| JayZzzz4 wrote: | | Well, I don't know the name brand offhand, but the back tires need to be replaced. I can't remember exactly, but i would say they are around 40-30% tread left which is fine for me, cause I only put on 1000-1500 miles a year. So if you want the backs for rubber, they aren't really worth it. But if you want the rims, I'll be willing to buy them a little bit more. I'm just a little worried about not finding two more wheels with out paying an arm or a leg for them. |
Do you have any 16x8's or anything else to compare to? I have 4 924S4 rims on my 80 931. Compared to my rim/tire specs (16x8 52.5mm offset) your 17x9 et 55 rims would stick out an extra 10mm towards the fender, and be 16mm closer to the suspension. On my car, the wheels would be perfect in my opionion (I like a VERY flush edge). With the 255's compared to my 245's, it would be harder to compare since mine ar Yokohama AVS Sports and I don't know what yours are (did I miss it?).
A good offset calculator that's free on the web at http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp As long as you know your current wheel specs, you can measure the new clearances for yourself.  _________________ '80 924 Turbo - SOLD!
1986 Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD!
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