| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
newman931
Joined: 25 Oct 2009
Posts: 30
Location: Tennessee, USA
|
 Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:21 am Post subject: CRAZY idea for 924 - TURBO DIESEL! |
 |
|
For a while I have tried to decide what to do with my 924 turbo.
Was going to make it original, then thought about a racer or a GT.
REALLY I want a reliable, HIGH gas mileage daily driver.
I'm really not sure if this will work...
The 931 motor was made by vw/audi, correct?
So, wouldn't an older VW turbo diesel motor work with the existing transmission? Of course with some mounting and electric modification.
What kind of bell housing fit would have to happen?
Any thoughts??????
Also, I'm gonna part out my 931 engine or sell the whole thing, so if any needs/wants any really good parts or the whole engine, let me know. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Posts: 627
Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: Re: CRAZY idea for 924 - TURBO DIESEL! |
|
|
| newman931 wrote: | The 931 motor was made by vw/audi, correct?
|
No, they were hand made in Zuffenhausen by Porsche.
_________________
Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
fiat22turbo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 4040
Location: Portland, OR
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
Wasn't the same block used in the Diesel Vanagons?
_________________
Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ideola
Joined: 01 Oct 2004
Posts: 15550
Location: Spring Lake MI
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
The 2.0L block is in fact the same block used for the diesel VW LT trucks. Not sure if that's the same thing as the Vanagon, thought those were a bit later and a different power plant...
_________________
erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
morghen
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Posts: 9102
Location: Romania
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
i'm sure you could swap in a 1.9 TDI 150HP Audi unit.
would take alot of work but its doable.
_________________
Supercharger and EFI kits
https://www.the924.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bnoon
Joined: 12 Oct 2009
Posts: 607
Location: West Des Moines, IA USA
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:57 am Post subject: |
|
|
TDI would be the shiz, TD would still rock... then do a bio conversion to run used veggie juice. Ummmmmmm, the smell of french fries.
_________________
'80 924 Turbo - SOLD!
1986 Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD!
Porscheless  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PORSCHEV
Joined: 02 Nov 2002
Posts: 1901
Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I run veggie in my F250...it does NOT smell like french fries  It smells like a BBQ! 
BTW an audi diesel has been done if you search the conversion section.
_________________
1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.
1978-#53 "D" track racer. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Martijnus
Joined: 29 Dec 2006
Posts: 2019
Location: Netherlands
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
| ideola wrote: | | The 2.0L block is in fact the same block used for the diesel VW LT trucks. Not sure if that's the same thing as the Vanagon, thought those were a bit later and a different power plant... |
euh.. I'm not really sure... but those engines were petrol engines.
The diesel LT had a quite different engine.
but again, not 100% sure.
_________________
"Rule: Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun." (C. Bell)
924 "50-jahre", 1981.
MSII/extra, LPG, ITB's, 5lug.
To be turbo'ed in a while.
Killed her at the Nurburgring, Porscheless at the moment |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
924guy
Joined: 29 Dec 2003
Posts: 2088
Location: Port St. Lucie, FL
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
a 931 in good repair should get you at least 28mpg hwy, and if you go easy, better than 30mpg is generally no problem, which is pretty darngood for a car thats 30 years old...
Ive gotten better than 35mpg in my n/a 2.0.
our new rabbit 5cyl doesnt even do 30 mpg consistently...
_________________
Eric
78 924
82 931 SE "smokey"
99' VehiCross
Y2K Honda Insight
http://www.cardomain.com/id/924Guy
Performance by Pasha |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
gegge
Joined: 27 Jul 2007
Posts: 1124
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=24994
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=12366
1990s to 2000 D5252T 2460cc Audi TDI 5 cylinder in Volvo 850 and S70/V70 and early S80s. 2.5TDI is just a 1.9TDI with additional cylinder.
_________________
Carl Fredrik Torkildsen
924 turbo -81 Carrera GT RESTOMOD
924 turbo -80 Dolomite De Luxe
924 -85 DP kit, BBS RS, M030 and tuned engine
924s -86 Black on black turbo with Fuchs |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
moone924
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Posts: 869
Location: Douglas Wyoming
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| gegge wrote: | http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=24994
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=12366
1990s to 2000 D5252T 2460cc Audi TDI 5 cylinder in Volvo 850 and S70/V70 and early S80s. 2.5TDI is just a 1.9TDI with additional cylinder. |
The 5 cylinder TDI has a Audi style bellhousing bolt pattern, like our 924's, the 1.9TDI is like a 4 cylinder VW engine, total different pattern, and also different from early and late motors.
_________________
Ryan Moone
Always shopping for a nice s2 931 to baby.
New philosophy : one car project at a time. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
gegge
Joined: 27 Jul 2007
Posts: 1124
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| moone924 wrote: | | gegge wrote: | http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=24994
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=12366
1990s to 2000 D5252T 2460cc Audi TDI 5 cylinder in Volvo 850 and S70/V70 and early S80s. 2.5TDI is just a 1.9TDI with additional cylinder. |
The 5 cylinder TDI has a Audi style bellhousing bolt pattern, like our 924's, the 1.9TDI is like a 4 cylinder VW engine, total different pattern, and also different from early and late motors. |
That is why you should use the Audi 1.9TDI  (longitudinally orientated engine at the front)
Frankly, I donīt know the bolt pattern of the Audi engines. But if you are going throu the trouble fitting another engine an adapterplate doesnīt compicate things that much.
_________________
Carl Fredrik Torkildsen
924 turbo -81 Carrera GT RESTOMOD
924 turbo -80 Dolomite De Luxe
924 -85 DP kit, BBS RS, M030 and tuned engine
924s -86 Black on black turbo with Fuchs |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
moone924
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Posts: 869
Location: Douglas Wyoming
|
| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
| gegge wrote: | | moone924 wrote: | | gegge wrote: | http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=24994
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=12366
1990s to 2000 D5252T 2460cc Audi TDI 5 cylinder in Volvo 850 and S70/V70 and early S80s. 2.5TDI is just a 1.9TDI with additional cylinder. |
The 5 cylinder TDI has a Audi style bellhousing bolt pattern, like our 924's, the 1.9TDI is like a 4 cylinder VW engine, total different pattern, and also different from early and late motors. |
That is why you should use the Audi 1.9TDI (longitudinally orientated engine at the front)
Frankly, I donīt know the bolt pattern of the Audi engines. But if you are going throu the trouble fitting another engine an adapterplate doesnīt compicate things that much. |
Gegge - The later Audi (also VW Passat) TDI longitudinally mount transaxles are dual pattern, with Audi and VW patterns - Transaxles based on the 01A or 01E.
Yes, if you're going to do a swap you might as well build a adaptor plate. But I always want to find the bolt in solution.
_________________
Ryan Moone
Always shopping for a nice s2 931 to baby.
New philosophy : one car project at a time. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
924 FAQ (Technical)
