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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: Turn signal issues with brakes |
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Half way home the other day something strange started to happen. Prior to troubleshooting, I figured I'd run it by the group to see if there's any suggestions on the best place to start.
When the brakes are applied, the right turn signal indicator flashes at around twice the rate that it operates at with the brakes not applied. The left indicator appears to work normally. All of the light bulbs appear to operate as expected; the only issue is the rate at which the indicator flashes, when the brakes are on.
Any ideas?
As the .signature says for wiring diagrams, etc. _________________ 78 924 NA
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Martijnus

Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 2019 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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clean up your negative connections on the body. _________________ "Rule: Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun." (C. Bell)
924 "50-jahre", 1981.
MSII/extra, LPG, ITB's, 5lug.
To be turbo'ed in a while.
Killed her at the Nurburgring, Porscheless at the moment |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Once electric connections r clean you need to coat them with a dielectric grease to protect them. That should restore function. Your going to
turn into the Mad - Electrician. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo.
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9XX Girl!

Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1617 Location: Cornish Riviera SW England
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:47 am Post subject: |
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in the boot, behind the carpet, to the left of the spare wheel, there is an earth point. undo the bolt, clean the copper, grease it up and put it back,
You problem is poor grounding. _________________ 924 (84) N/A 2 ltr - 5 Speed - BLACK - Project (looking for 200BHP, any ideas!)
924 (81) N/A 2 ltr - 3 Speed Auto - SURINAM RED (Metallic) - Near Original Spec (sticking with originality)
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| Joes924Racer wrote: | | you need to coat them with a dielectric grease to protect them. |
Vaseline! _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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daniel
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 687 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Had the exact problem, cleaned all Earth contacts ect - played around for ages, made no difference at all.
Gave up cause its a race car, but if you come across the solution pls let us know.
Daniel _________________ Over the top of skyline, total brake failure.... hit the wall at over 200 kp/h at the dipper, so anyone who has to brake for the esses is a pussy.
1977.5 Race Car, CAMS Group S Spec
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Indeed the problem was a bad ground, or earth as the Pommies (as Khal would refer to them) say.
The problem was caused by some rust forming in the socket for the tail light light bulb, that is, the bulb directly below the turn indicator bulb, which is the bottom outer bulb on the rear light cluster.
I also took the opportunity to replace the bulb with one of the correct type, as the old one was a big 27 watt bulb, when the other side had a 10 watt bulb in that location, and the rear light cluster indicated a 10 watt bulb was supposed to be in that location.
Note that the electrical contact for the outside of the bulb is supposed to be on the little tabs on the base of the bulb, not the circumference of the bulb.
Cleaned off the rust out of the socket where the tabs make contact (which necessitated removing the plastic part of the socket from the metal bracket), and it all works properly now!
Thanks!
I was expecting a ground loop issue like this, and am glad to see it is the case. I haven't figured out what the actual current path was that caused this to happen though. _________________ 78 924 NA
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9XX Girl!

Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1617 Location: Cornish Riviera SW England
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| Mike924 wrote: | | Joes924Racer wrote: | | you need to coat them with a dielectric grease to protect them. |
Vaseline! |
Keep it greasy !tom
 _________________ 924 (84) N/A 2 ltr - 5 Speed - BLACK - Project (looking for 200BHP, any ideas!)
924 (81) N/A 2 ltr - 3 Speed Auto - SURINAM RED (Metallic) - Near Original Spec (sticking with originality)
BOTH ON THE ROAD, BOTH USED EVERY-OTHER DAY |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| !tom wrote: | | the Pommies (as Khal would refer to them)... |
And every other Australian on the planet.
Just to be as helpful as 9XX Girl!, I Google'd a picture of a turn signal/indicator;
A 10W bulb;
And not to forget some Dielectric grease;
Now we all know what they look like, don't we kiddies?! Yay! Let's all clap hands together!  _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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9XX Girl!

Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1617 Location: Cornish Riviera SW England
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| Khal wrote: | And not to forget some Dielectric grease;
Now we all know what they look like, don't we kiddies?! Yay! Let's all clap hands together!  |
hmmm.... but Khal i bet it costs more and....you cant put.... Dielectric grease on your lipies, smile
 _________________ 924 (84) N/A 2 ltr - 5 Speed - BLACK - Project (looking for 200BHP, any ideas!)
924 (81) N/A 2 ltr - 3 Speed Auto - SURINAM RED (Metallic) - Near Original Spec (sticking with originality)
BOTH ON THE ROAD, BOTH USED EVERY-OTHER DAY |
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Slam
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 1690 Location: Wainwright, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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^ The stuff of nightmares... _________________ '88 944 Auto - may or may not resurrect |
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I used an electrically conductive grease (not a dieletric) intended for aluminum electrical connections in mains wiring. I was assured it is appropriate for this type of application as well. _________________ 78 924 NA
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9XX Girl!

Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1617 Location: Cornish Riviera SW England
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Slam wrote: | | ^ The stuff of nightmares... |
Who, Khal?  _________________ 924 (84) N/A 2 ltr - 5 Speed - BLACK - Project (looking for 200BHP, any ideas!)
924 (81) N/A 2 ltr - 3 Speed Auto - SURINAM RED (Metallic) - Near Original Spec (sticking with originality)
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Harm

Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1378 Location: Holland
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:33 am Post subject: Interlude |
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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It's getting weird again...!  _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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