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Maybe924

Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject: Question on wheel possibilities. |
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I'm looking for my future wheels for the 931GT. I'm considering a blacked out look but I want a very workman style wheel and they need to be wide. 8s up front and 9s in the back with a nice deep center. Both the 8s and the 9s can have an offset of 10, maybe even more in the back because I can always pull the 21mm spacer and replace with a smaller one.
With a good lowering plus the right wheel and tire choice I'd like to give the car a really aggressive look.
I really like the look of these steel cragers but they are made for trucks and don't offer the proper fitment and since they're steel they are also heavy as hell.
Any ideas on similar style wheels or wheels that at least have a similar aesthetic?
BTW that big chrome hub cover would not make it on the car. _________________ 1981 931 GT (CGT Intercooled)
1985 911 Targa Carrera (Sold) |
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Maybe924

Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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These remind me of the wheels Porsche ran on the 917s. Unfortunately this particular wheel was made for Mercedes and have the wrong bolt pattern.
ATS Penta 5
 _________________ 1981 931 GT (CGT Intercooled)
1985 911 Targa Carrera (Sold) |
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Maybe924

Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhh Old School Ronals
 _________________ 1981 931 GT (CGT Intercooled)
1985 911 Targa Carrera (Sold) |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well how about Fuchs? _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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This car belongs to one finnish board member but he doesn't write here very often. Those Fuchs wheels are classy.
 _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Board member Elektrobank and his car. Those are Fondmetal wheels but I wonder that there are also five lug Rials existing which look really really similar. One could paint those centers black and polish the lips. Or black all the way. Could be cool with a lowered car.
 _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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9xx
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 627 Location: Jarvenpaa, Finland
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Rial:
 _________________ Mikko
All gone: 931 '82 Alpine White, original option "220" G31 with LSD + 3 x 944 |
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Carrera
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 143 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thought I'd piggy back on this thread as I haven't found the information elsewhere... I don't still have a 931 but I am negotiationg on a couple of examples and would like to know a bit more on wheel/tire options.
Narrow body 931:
- What is the standard offset/ET for spider web 6x15?
- What is the "best" tire size?
- What is the standard offset/ET for the flat disc 16" wheel?
- What is the "best" tire size?
- I've also seen 17" replica cup wheels on a 931, but what would be the correct offset/ET?
- Do older 911 Fuchs (6x15, 7x15, 6x16, 7x16) fit in the narrow body car?
Wide Body 931 CGT-look
- I assume 7/8x15 & 7/8x16 Fuchs with 23,2 offset/ET are a match
- What would be the correct offset/ET for replica 17" cup wheels? _________________ 931 S2, 1981 |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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If money is no object, the 16" Fuchs were available in widths from 6" to 9" and will probably be the best bet in terms of offset. Period and model correct for the CGT look, and purportedly quite light, although I don't know the weight.
Fuchs also came in 14" and 15" diameters in widths ranging from 4.5" to 11", but I'm not sure what offsets, and these are not quite the color scheme you were after:
Cookie cutters 15" are close to your scheme, but may not be wide enough at 6" and 7" widths
Here are a couple of other 16" possibilities available in 7", 8" & 9", which could be painted to your scheme. However, the offsets are listed, you'd have to inquire to find out. C2 5-spoke on the left, 993 on the right:
The 993 Cup, C2 Turbo, and 993 Targa are all 17" 5-spoke available in staggered sets.
I have a set of staggered Rials (7.5 / 9) similar to the ones depicted above that are the correct offset for filling up the early offset 944 configuration. I bought them originally for the UWB, but I've since landed a set of Borbets for it that are an inch wider and won't require spacers to fill the super wide arches on that car. So the Rials may end up on the 941 next spring.
Dave @ Wheel Enhancement is a very responsive resource, so I wouldn't hesitate to call or email him with questions. Of course, you don't want to abuse his time if you don't plan to patronize him, but he's typically very helpful. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Maybe924

Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I do like Fuchs. I currently have 7X15s and 8X15s on the car. I'd love to get some 9X15s on the back and move the 8s to the front but... the 9X15s are just to darn expensive. A pair of 9X15s will set you back $3000. So that option is out. The 16s also get a little pricey and its hard to find a used set thats not 7X16 and 9X16 which would necessitate I additionally find a pair of 8X16s in 951 offset.
The other option I was considering is classic one piece BBS wheels in either 8X15 and 9X15 or 8X16 and 9X16. Haven't ruled these out but not sure I want the gold centers and would be loath to paint such nice wheels black. The 15s can be had at a reasonable price if they can be found.
If they made the Ronal R9s in 9X16 I'd definately go that route but I don't think they made them that wide.
If I do go with a wheel besides the ones above I'd stay away from anything too modern. Really looking for vintage possibilities. _________________ 1981 931 GT (CGT Intercooled)
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Maybe924

Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| Carrera wrote: | Thought I'd piggy back on this thread as I haven't found the information elsewhere... I don't still have a 931 but I am negotiationg on a couple of examples and would like to know a bit more on wheel/tire options.
Narrow body 931:
- What is the standard offset/ET for spider web 6x15?
- What is the "best" tire size?
- What is the standard offset/ET for the flat disc 16" wheel?
- What is the "best" tire size?
- I've also seen 17" replica cup wheels on a 931, but what would be the correct offset/ET?
- Do older 911 Fuchs (6x15, 7x15, 6x16, 7x16) fit in the narrow body car?
Wide Body 931 CGT-look
- I assume 7/8x15 & 7/8x16 Fuchs with 23,2 offset/ET are a match
- What would be the correct offset/ET for replica 17" cup wheels? |
I believe both the spider webs and the flat dish are 52ET. A good tire size for the spideys is 195X65 or 205X60, I'm unsure on the flat dish.
Cup wheels will fit the 931.
As far as Fuchs are concerned, its difficult to get them under the fenders of the narrow bodied cars. You could likely squeeze the 6X16 Fuchs up front with some negative camber or alternatively I'm pretty sure there are some very early 15s that have a larger offset that would fit good. In the rear you can use either 7X15 or 7X16, you just need to remove the spacer and either get some steel lugs or change out the studs to shorter ones.
Another option you didn't mention for the narrow bodied 931s are late offset 16 inch Phone Dials. These look very good.
For the wide body cars the fuchs you mentioned are the ones commonly on the CGTs. You can also move the 8s up front and put 9s in the back.
Cup Wheels will require spacers on the wide bodied cars. _________________ 1981 931 GT (CGT Intercooled)
1985 911 Targa Carrera (Sold) |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe924 wrote: | | The other option I was considering is classic one piece BBS wheels in either 8X15 and 9X15 or 8X16 and 9X16. Haven't ruled these out but not sure I want the gold centers and would be loath to paint such nice wheels black. The 15s can be had at a reasonable price if they can be found. |
If you can find a set, the Rials might be a really good option. They're typically not as expensive as the BBS, so painting them shouldn't be a concern. The ones I have are all silver, no gold center. I'm contemplating stripping them down, polishing the lip, painting the center black, and putting them on the 941. They are period correct as well. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Maybe924

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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Found the perfect option... 917 style and available in a wide range of sizes and offsets. However, I'm betting the are quite expensive.
BTW Dan, a set of these would be kick ass on the UWB.
http://www.pentamotorsports.com/pdfs/rim-flyer.pdf _________________ 1981 931 GT (CGT Intercooled)
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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paulsmaroon924

Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Posts: 176 Location: IRELAND
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| slighty OT but what is the offset for the 924 na, the 4 stud pattern one please. |
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