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Rocco R16V · Joined: 03 May 2009 Posts: 497 Location: PNW

So i'm listening to talk radio and they are talking about the Chevy volt and they say; it's not like the prius, its a whole new design where the motor doesnt drive the wheels it charges the battery.

I had to laugh as most car people know this design isnt new.
Then last night I was doing a search on here and came across this (thanks Smothie)
http://www.autohistory.org/feature_6.html

So GovMotors is claiming that the volt gets like 230 million mpg(230 mpg)

and the radio guys did their due diligence and found it gets only 35mpg highway.
They did say “if you drive less than 40 miles per day and charge it overnight that you could drive forever without filling up”

again I laugh and think no, not even close. Assuming the batteries last ten years and don’t ever decade (yeah right) I get only 146000 before having to buy batteries. Its such a joke!

So What do you think, are there any inventors anymore, is this $40K+ car going to save GM and us?
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D Hook · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3158 Location: Omaha, NE

40k is pretty a stiff price.
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Joes924Racer · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:31 am Post subject:

hey maybe they can send it over to porsche..
I went to the movies last night and saw district 9, it
was amazing. Has sequal written all over the place.
Party on guys.
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D Hook · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3158 Location: Omaha, NE

macBdog · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:14 am Post subject:

District 9 is unreal!
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Paul · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:53 am Post subject:

I wonder if it will go 40 miles on just the battery in the winter with headlights, front and rear defoggers, windshield wipers, and the radio all on for the whole trip.
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Chrenan · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada

GM and Chrysler won't be seeing any of my business until they pay back their government loans. They stole enough of my tax payment already. If they made a car that ran on air I still wouldn't buy it.
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Joes924Racer · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject:

My step dad was talking about this car tonight he thinks its great as in the claim of 230 mpg.. hell probly get one when and if they ever do. Its just a matter of time.. its pretty neat though not good enough a start.
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PORSCHEV · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject:

datatrain · Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:41 am Post subject:

So who will be willing to pop $40K for an untried vehicle. Toyota's Prius has been on the road for a few years now and most taxis I see are Prius.
At about $25K. If you've been in one they are amazing.

Why would you spend your hard earned bucks for a GovtMotors car ? Even GM admits they will be subsidizing the buyers for a couple of years. Hardly sounds like a well thought out business plan to me.

It would be easier for GM to just buy Toyota. Oh I forget, the US Govt would need to borrow all the money to do that since they are the largest shareholders and they are broke as well.

In about 2 years this entire bailout scenario will be replayed but from an even weaker position. They should have been left for the market to determine their fate. After all, that's supposedly how capitalism works. No one ever offered to bail my business out.
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Rocco R16V · Joined: 03 May 2009 Posts: 497 Location: PNW

Chrenan · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada

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Rattlinbone · Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 265 Location: Seattle, WA

Why would I want to drive a GM car? I have a Porsche!

POORscheMAN · Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 104 Location: Norwich NY

American car manufacturers need to get their act together and take a lesson from ze Germans.

My 1994 968 in its current trim is producing roughly 250hp from a 3.0l 4 cyl engine. I drove around 300 miles this past weekend and am getting around 27-28 mpg.
My 99 Chevy half ton with a 5.7L makes the same power at half the efficiency.

Porsche created variocam and an N/A intake that crates 4psi of boost from pulse tuning in 1992 (968 Resonant induction intake).

Why cant an American Car company in 2009 make a car that gets 40+mpg but produces healthy hp numbers (220+hp)
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