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ideola · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI

ideola · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI

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tuurbo · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject:

I don't know this program very intimately.

I think what I like about the cash for clunkers program is that it possibly encourages some people to buy.

But what I don't think is good about it is:

1. Why should people who've made bad decisions (e.g., to purchase a gas guzzling car in an age of competent economical vehicles) get rewarded but people like me who've already destroyed our gas guzzlers don't get rewarded.

2. It rewards new car sales rather than used car commerce, as I understand it.

Re: Incentives - I'd prefer if new car dealers were less greedy and would simply give a better deal on trade ins - that would certainly encourage me to buy. I'd also prefer if they were less stupid and held way less new car inventory. They should do away with dealerships. Have purchase direct from the car company.

3. There's no comparable program for industry, which is where the bulk of the pollution is created. And I doubt the impact from automobiles is very substantial in the larger picture. I'll hazard a guess that in terms of oil consumption and / or pollution impact, it's our industrial complex that's doing the bulk of the polluting, and it's there that government needs to lay down better law if they want an impact on either consumption or impact.
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Maybe924 · Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: New London, CT

There are gonna be alot of old 928s headed for the scrapheap.
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tuurbo · Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject:

ideola · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI

Yeah, one of the really bad things about this program is that it requires the "clunker" to be sent to a scrap yard.

And, FWIW, my 1980 Euro spec 4.5L gets 20MPG, even when I'm thrashing it.
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Rasta Monsta · Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW

Tempting. . .I am getting sick of my Cherokee.
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Khal · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:09 am Post subject:

British Columbia has something like that for over a decade. It's now called the SCRAP-IT PROGRAM. Depending on the criteria you satisfy, you can get rebates for a new car, a new bicycle, transit tickets or even cash, I think. It's not a bad thing, I s'pose, but I suspect the majority of people driving around in quarter-century-old beaters probably don't have the cash to take advantage of buying a new car anyway...
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tuurbo · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:04 am Post subject:

skemcin · Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 1284 Location: Plainfield, IL

I wish I could take advantage of it but....

can't really afford a car payment right now
don't own a qualifying vehicle

I'd like to trade my 2001 Mitsubishi Montero Sport XLS in for a 2009 Buick Enclave CX AWD. But, since I don't qualify and can't afford the car/suv, I'll invest another $1k or $2k in the Montero to make it last another 125k miles.
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Rich H · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:38 am Post subject:

The UK have just introduced the same program here but they will take any car with an MOT and give you £2000 towards abuying a new car.

Problem is where are all these new cars made? Malaysia, Japan, Germany, and a few (Very few) in the UK... All that taxpayers money going straight overseas...

It's actually pushed the some used car prices up recently - my Elise was worth £5000 last year now it's worth around £8000!

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!tom · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:57 am Post subject:

Paul · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:02 am Post subject:

The US program requires that you've owned and have INSURED the car for the last 12 months.

How many clunker owners have insurance in states that do not have mandatory insurance (like WI)?
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pocketscience · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject:

steeny · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: