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icdpride
Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 70 Location: Manlius, NY
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: 1977 Porsche 924 for the cost of a uhual worth it? |
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Well as much as I would love to join the ranks of porsche 924 owners I wonder if this car is even worth my time. I am not sure of the condition really the guy it has been in storage inside for the last 5 years or so. I was just wondering what I should look for when I go to pick it up like is there anything that just by looking at will tell me the car is to costly to repair. thanks from a hoping soon to be porsche noob.
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Brockoli

Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 621 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I got my '79 for $80 which was the tow home. Was it worth it, not financially. i have put easily double into the car then what i could sell it for in its current condition. Was it fun and educational, without a doubt!!! And i got to spend a bunch of time with my dad fixing it and learning from him. heres a summary....
Good things from my project:
no one has one, you will rarely see one when your driving your car
the amount i have learned
time spent with dad
it handles like a car worth 10X it
you get to say you drive a porsche
it has so much character that you will hate new cars that have no feedback
24MPG driving it hard
~2200lbs=fun in the twisties
the joy fixing it and the reward of driving a better car from your efforts
its a 2 seater, i hate being a taxi
lots of room for road trips like camping
reliable once in proper running condition
you get to be part of this board and meet cool people
take out sunroof
some parts are no longer available and are fun to hunt/modify other parts to work
Bad things from my project:
I could of had a 951 aka 944 turbo in as good of condition
lots of $$$ spent that i will never recover
110hp, my taurus is faster in a straight line
harsh daily driver with my suspension/tire setup
parts cost lots
everytime i fix one thing something else breaks
its a 2 seater and sometimes i have to be a taxi
some parts are no longer available and its aggrevating
Hopefully this helps, just remember its 30+ years old and will take lots of time, which can be fun, and its not a fast car but makes up for it in the corners 10 fold! _________________ '80 924 M471,Wideband O2, Full coilover susp,23/19 sways,Bilstiens,KLA Strut Brace,Roll Bar,Test Pipe,BBS RS, Willwood BBK
25% of a '87 944 Chumpcar http://straightpipe.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=2454
'79 924 Sebring Edition(Sitting) |
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Power Tryp

Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 435 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm backing Brockoli here, I'm in a slightly different boat with my 931 (924 turbo) but it's been a blast repairing it and driving it.
Just by what those low res pictures tell me, it looks to be in good condition exterior wise, the panels look straight and rust free just sand prime and spray and you'll be looking good.
From what you said I take it it doesn't run, ask about the timing belt and if it broke. The fuel system could also be an issue if the tank rusted out.
You've come to the wrong place to ask if you should take a free (or next to free) 924 but once you do get it home you have the right site to help you get it running, keep it running and help you if you have any questions regarding anything from wheel size to interior replacement.
Tryp _________________ Melanie - 1980 931
NoName - 1980 931 (seeking rebuild)
Green tartan interior, you don't see that on a Civic. |
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rkn

Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 176 Location: Copenhagen
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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+1 to both of the above.
It looks pretty much like mine did when I got it......is it worth it? Really depends on your wallet at the moment. The $$$ needed to bring it back would over time probably exceed the price of just buying a nice running specimen today.
BUT if you'd like a cheap project car and you plan on buying parts one-by-one & spreading the expenses over time (so you don't notice the ridiculous amounts of money you have spent), THEN this is definitely the fun way to go.
of course, before you get any 924, you must be fond of not only driving but also LOTS of DIY maintenance. The first year of owning my car, I was mega-frustrated on a daily basis. I hated CIS and regretted my buy more than once. Now (2 years), i love my slow car and hug her every morning.
But if patience, lots of reading, and an "issue of the day" is not your thing, then this car will drive you loony
 _________________ 1980 924NA ROW |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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My advice would be to hold out for something a little better as a starting point. While you're waiting for the right car to come along, keep saving your pennies. I think you could probably find a newer version in pretty much the same condition for pretty much the same price. If you can, try to get a 1980 or later. The anemic 95HP engine in the 77 while leave you wanting more, might as well do it right the first time. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| icdpride wrote: | | ...worth my time... costly to repair. |
Depends what you mean...
These are not classic collectable cars. Do you appreciate that people are giving these things away... literally?! Even if you get one of these things for free, you almost certainly will get no monetary return on it - unless you take the time to part it out or by some miracle, it only needs those panels painted and you can do a reasonable job with a rattle can or you have a spray gun and then you flip it for current market value, which is likely to be less than two grand. Even parting it won't make you a millionaire. In certain circumstances it may even cost you money.
However, there is a reason (several, actually) why everyone here tends to keep them; they are fun little things to drive, they're economical, mpg-wise, and even practical, as far as sports cars go. That could be worth it to you. If you're a complete noob, do some research before you buy (search and read everything you think might be relevant here). Like most things German, it's not all smiles und sunshine
Considering you're effectively getting the thing for free, in relative terms, yes, it will almost certainly be costly to repair! If the car has been let go to the point it is no longer running, it is going to cost you. If you need bodywork and the interior done, it is really going to cost you. How much? Well, how nice do you want the car to be? If that car requires a thorough going-over, I suspect you could go buy a brand new Hyundai off the lot for less than you'll end up spending on it... _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: |
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You want a hobby. Do it.
Got money. Do it.
Read the above again.
The parts can cost a fortune especially if you are on a budget. Rust is not a problem but other parts are. Do the work yourself? No. Then pass and get a American car. Cheaper and faster.
Are you slightly nuts? Buy the car and join the club. You were warned. _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
87 911 Targa stock |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| icdpride wrote: | | I was just wondering what I should look for... |
By the way, just to clarify, these cars are mechanically pretty basic, apart from the fuel-injection system (which, if you're used to late-'70's Yank Tanks and not German cars, is probably very different to anything you've seen before).
You would look for anything you'd look for in a regular car. Does it start? Does it idle/run smoothly? Is there funny-coloured smoke pouring out the exhaust? Do the pedals work and feel good? Does the gearbox feel good? Do the lights and switchgear work? Is the interior in reasonable condition? Etc, etc...
If the answer is no to any/all of the above, and you want to change it to yes, get the wallet out...  _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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icdpride
Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 70 Location: Manlius, NY
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| thanks for all the input I have decided that operation porsche pickup is a go thanks again. |
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rkn

Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 176 Location: Copenhagen
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:36 am Post subject: |
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smokey, you are entering a world of pain.
welcome to the club. _________________ 1980 924NA ROW |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| icdpride wrote: | | ...operation porsche pickup is a go thanks again. |
Oh, where's that smiley where it's eating popcorn? This is gonna be interesting... _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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icdpride
Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 70 Location: Manlius, NY
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| Khal wrote: | | icdpride wrote: | | ...operation porsche pickup is a go thanks again. |
Oh, where's that smiley where it's eating popcorn? This is gonna be interesting... |
hey the guy said it was driven into storage and it ran then so fingers crossed for a quick fix |
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moorepower

Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 263 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina, USA
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Hey, worst case scenario, you'll have a parts car for the next one you buy.  _________________ Dan.
'88 924S-LE (Luddite Edition)
Manual steering, manual sunroof, manual windows, AC delete, cruise delete, M030 Konis, 25.5mm torsions, 26.8/20 sways |
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philProject.D.

Joined: 20 Apr 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| moorepower wrote: | Hey, worst case scenario, you'll have a parts car for the next one you buy.  |
Exactly, I can't see this as being a bad idea...either way, it's free and hopefully it does require a few easy fixes. If not, donor car it is. _________________ 924 NA - December/'78 - 5-speed snailshell |
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Khal

Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4872 Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| philProject.D. wrote: | | moorepower wrote: | Hey, worst case scenario, you'll have a parts car for the next one you buy.  |
Exactly, I can't see this as being a bad idea... |
Free car is good, sure. The potentially bad part is that a complete noob starts dropping large-ish amounts of cash into a car that basically can't be resurrected. Several grand later (or just several frustrating years later, if they're lucky), they realise they should've just bought a decent one. And are left with pile of junk that they can't get their money back out of. Could be an expensive way to learn a lesson...
(of course, I hope it doesn't go that way for you, icdpride) _________________ '80 924 Turbo |
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