| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
|
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: Special Tool US 8005, or 2038 |
|
|
It's the "how deep is your love" tool for valve adjusting screws. Anyone know where to obtain one? _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
|
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
I obtained one on Fleabay a while ago. Only place I've seen one. Honestly, I think it's overrated. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
GregSC
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 122 Location: Lovely, KY
|
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
I just ordered "Special tool 2038" today from Zelenda Automotive Inc. out of New York. (How odd is it that you would post this question today?). Anyway I saw a reference to the company in the old Chilton's Porsche 924 and 928 manual and thought I would see if the company was still in business. It was and they had the part for $17.00. The company's phone number is (718) 896-2288 or (888) 892-8348. They have several Audi and VW tools listed on their website (but not 2038 or 8005), so they could be a good source for factory tools related to our cars (aforementioned Chilton's manual advertised them as such). _________________ 1981 931
Last edited by GregSC on Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:00 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Martijnus

Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 2019 Location: Netherlands
|
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
How hard is it to modify an allen wrench?
couldn't be that hard to cut it and weld something to it to get the same tool... _________________ "Rule: Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun." (C. Bell)
924 "50-jahre", 1981.
MSII/extra, LPG, ITB's, 5lug.
To be turbo'ed in a while.
Killed her at the Nurburgring, Porscheless at the moment |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
|
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
Or just etch a mark on one. Frankly, when the "special tool" is at it's limit, you only have one, maybe two full turns left any way before a conventional allen wrench can't reach in far enough. As I said, I think they're over-rated. I end up using the allen wrench 9 out of 10 times, even though I have the "special tool". _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
|
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
While we're talking valve adjust tools, maybe some of ya's that have them can measure and compare results with the Zim's tool I have..? -
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=16069&start=10
 _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
|
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
 _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
|
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks Dan.
That's interesting - the range measurement that I came up with from the drawing
in the FSM (6mm) is actually more like 9.5mm (minus the thickness of the tappet wall,
so the range is maybe about 7mm?...Now anybody with a tappet laying around and
can measure the wall thickness? ).
So...the drawing in the manual isn't as correct to scale as I was hoping..
 _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
|
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Don't have my dial calipers handy at the moment, but the tappet wall thickness is less than 1mm...by eyeballing, I'd say maybe 60-70%. _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RC

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia
|
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The tappet wall thickness tapers, particularly so in the vicinity of the hole. Most also have an internal burr at the holes.
Thickness varies from 1.3mm at the bottom of the hole to 2.4mm towards the top. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
GregSC
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 122 Location: Lovely, KY
|
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
Just a note on valve adjusting tool 2038 to pass along. Received this tool in the mail the other day and was a little surprised to find out that it is not designed to actually adjust the screws, but just to measure whether or not the adjustments made are within specific tolerances. The tool doesn't have the necessary 3mm hex head on the end. The Haynes manual and associated drawings (in that manual and others) are a little misleading in this regard. If you wanted to use something more than a 3mm Allen wrench for the job it would be advisable to purchase US 8005 (pictured earlier in this thread by Ideola). FYI the green tolerance determining area of both 2038 and 8005 are identical (according to the picture of 8005 in this thread and my measurements of 2038), so there is no advantage to purchasing the older 2038 over 8005, the opposite would be true because you are getting the measurement tool as well as the adjustment tool with US 8005. _________________ 1981 931 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
968rz

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 537 Location: S. E. Wisconsin
|
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I use a standard 3mm 1/4" drive Allen socket from Snap-On (# tmamxs3e) that I ground down to fit, looks just like the one Smoothie posted and it works great. _________________ Rick
79 924 coupe Petrol Blue 3spd auto (wife's DD)
93 968 coupe Amazon Green 4spd Tip (my DD) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|