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skemcin

Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 1284 Location: Plainfield, IL
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: Wipers Stop when I turn them off - no matter where they are. |
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I assume our cars have a wiper park switch and mine is bad - I've not looked it up in Haynes yet. But would this also be when the first position (fixed intermittent) doesn't do anything also?
In other words, I have four positions with my wiper lever - off, 1 (intermittent- ?), 2-slow, 3-fast. When I move my lever to position 1 nothing happens. Whenever I move it to position 2 or 3 when I bring it back down to off, the wipers stop where ever they are - they do not return to resting place. When I push forward on that same lever, to wash the windows, nothing happens there too.
So is all this a wiper park switch (if we have one) or is it that, the wiper motor, and maybe something else.
Naturally, I will check all my wiring first - clean and replace - but just want to understand what else could be it after I go that route.
Thanks. _________________ 924.org (no time to complete)
9249206346 - 89k – new shifter bushings, belts, running well.
9249206347 - 8k – waiting its resurrection, no power at the fuel pump and fuse #7 blows w/power |
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Maybe924

Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 412 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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There is a intermittent wiper relay that handles the intermittent function and the stopping at the bottom. I'm guessing the relay isn't in place or its broken. _________________ 1981 931 GT (CGT Intercooled)
1985 911 Targa Carrera (Sold) |
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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The no-park problem can be caused by a faulty or absent wiper relay.
The interval (intermittant) wiping function is also handled by the wiper relay.
Whoops - add to that the wash-wipe function - that's also handled by the wiper relay (just the wiping part of the function - the wash spray is seperate, and handled by the switch and the pump).
It sure is starting to look like a wiper relay problem.  _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
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skemcin

Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 1284 Location: Plainfield, IL
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks - that will give me something to go right for when I get in there tomorrow. So, maybe the wiper relay - lol.
 _________________ 924.org (no time to complete)
9249206346 - 89k – new shifter bushings, belts, running well.
9249206347 - 8k – waiting its resurrection, no power at the fuel pump and fuse #7 blows w/power |
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Agree- relay is missing or faulty. (could be a faulty motor but unlikely)
Switch positions from top are:
fast
slow
off
intermittent. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
Engineer of Electro/Mechanical Systems Maintenance |
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skemcin

Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 1284 Location: Plainfield, IL
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Ozzie wrote: | Agree- relay is missing or faulty. (could be a faulty motor but unlikely)
Switch positions from top are:
fast
slow
off
intermittent. |
lol - thanks for the clarification - so what I've thought was off was really intermittent - lol. _________________ 924.org (no time to complete)
9249206346 - 89k – new shifter bushings, belts, running well.
9249206347 - 8k – waiting its resurrection, no power at the fuel pump and fuse #7 blows w/power |
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Ozzie wrote: | Switch positions from top are:
fast
slow
off
intermittent. |
Dumbest arrangement ever! Why isn't OFF at the bottom? (Rhetorical question.)
When I had a problem with the wipers parking it turned out to be the stalk switch. One of the contacts wasn't ...er... contacting in the OFF/Park position; I needed to bend it up slightly with a screwdriver to get it to contact properly. _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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If you take the switches off its best to clean all the contacts including the wash switch and add some dielectric grease afterwards.
I'm sure you will get the right answer here. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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Druman

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 419 Location: Middleport, Ohio
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:48 am Post subject: |
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I had the problem with the wipers stopping where ever they were, but the motor I had was also very noisy so I just replaced it and everything was fine after that.
7osh _________________ 87' 924S non-sunroof (Red) 45K miles
85' 944 "early" NA (Red) 130K miles
PORSCHE pisses excellence... |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Mike924 wrote: | | Ozzie wrote: | Switch positions from top are:
fast
slow
off
intermittent. |
Dumbest arrangement ever! Why isn't OFF at the bottom? (Rhetorical question.)
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At least they are consistent, new Porsches are the same, so call it training for when you buy a newer Porsche. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Ask Ozzie if Fiat 124 Spyders aren't even stupider. I had a '70 Fiat Spyder that had the headlights controlled by a stalk switch. I was constantly shutting off the headlights while making a turn because I'd hit the headlight switch instead of the turn signal. -And for windsheild washing the pump was a manual foot operated deal on the floor instead of a normal cars' electric pump. -And don't even ask about valve adjustment..
On the bright side, at least the spark plugs were easy to get at. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Yeah and everyone wondered if it had a V8 when they looked at the double overhead cam covers.
Also points, plugs and brake pads were 12,000 mile items.
BTW they have interference engines. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes and who has ever heard of a timing mark for the fuel and oil pump pulley?
I can understand setting the crank and both cams but the extra idler cam?
PITA
If you dont set it right the cam will hit the skirt on the pistons. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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poorsha924
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 143 Location: Kansas City Mo
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: wipers not working properly |
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Hi Skemcin
sounds like you could have a bad wiper switch or loose connection where it plugs into the harness in the steering column , since you have no washers either. It does have a wiper relay in the fuse box 4th relay from the left right above the fuses. could have a poor connection or defective. un plug it & put it back in. tap on it see if this makes a difference. Let me know how it turns out or if you need more info
Poorsha924  _________________ 79 924S snailshell
audi big bore t-body
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Lotus Europa's third cam has marks too since it drives the distributor. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
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