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924aussie
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
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Location: Chinchilla Queensland Australia
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 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: 924 or a 928 Electric Vehicle ????? |
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If I put one of these in my 924 ... does it become a 928 ?
If any one wants, I have a link to over 200 Porsche EV's
Alan
Similar in power to a small block eight cylinder gas vehicle.
War P 9" Motor $ 1,670.00
156SXX-0 Logisystems Controller $1,823.00
Emergency disconnect $ 45.00
H20-2 Apex Ultra cooling system $ 179.95
SW-200B SPNO Contactor $ 156.00
PB-6 Pot Box Accelerator $ 85.00
IOTA DC to DC Converter 45amps $ 200.00
A50QS400-4 Safety Fuse
$ 70.85
e-meter with complete setup $ 395.20
10 X 14" 600V Gage2/00 Cable $ 95.00
PCF- 20 battery charger $1,950.00
Total $6,670.00
Similar in power to a small block eight cylinder gas vehicle.
No transmission needed
Trans War P 11" Motor $ 3,500.00
156SXX-0 Logisystems Controller $1,823.00
Emergency disconnect $ 45.00
H20-2 Apex Ultra cooling system $ 179.95
SW-200B SPNO Contactor $ 156.00
PB-6 Pot Box Accelerator $ 85.00
IOTA DC to DC Converter 45amps $ 200.00
A50QS700-4 Safety Fuse
$189.15
e-meter with complete setup $ 395.20
10 X 14" 600V Gage2/00 Cable $ 95.00
PCF- 20 battery charger $1,950.00
Total $8,618.30
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Martijnus
Joined: 29 Dec 2006
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Location: Netherlands
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see any batteries in the quote.... I reckon thát is the most expensive stuff for such a conversion.
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"Rule: Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun." (C. Bell)
924 "50-jahre", 1981.
MSII/extra, LPG, ITB's, 5lug.
To be turbo'ed in a while.
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924aussie
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Location: Chinchilla Queensland Australia
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Martijnus wrote: | | I don't see any batteries in the quote.... I reckon thát is the most expensive stuff for such a conversion. |
http://www.grassrootsev.com/batteries.htm
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1998 Mopar Neon ... sick
2003 Challenger / Montery 4WD
1995 Hyundai Scoupe ... sold
1998 Nissan Silvia ... sons back from OS he has taken it
BIG BLOODY MOTORHOME 300zx Sold
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Martijnus
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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and how much of such batteries would you need for a decent range?
10....20? 1000? 
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"Rule: Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun." (C. Bell)
924 "50-jahre", 1981.
MSII/extra, LPG, ITB's, 5lug.
To be turbo'ed in a while.
Killed her at the Nurburgring, Porscheless at the moment |
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Petrovich
Joined: 27 Sep 2005
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Location: Rockville, MD
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: |
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I'd rather do a Sprite or a Midget with a 30hp PMG motor and 6 batteries. It'd have a 30 mile range or so, but it would weigh about 1500 lbs with me in it  Big cars are too heavy to be electric, you need a lot of batteries to get a decent range which adds more weight, and then you get into the whole range/weight loop where you end up with a 150 mile range, but it handles like a brick, has no trunk space, and dims the whole town when you start charging it up
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Fast924S
Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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Location: New Haven, CT
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Electric sucks. Its really heavy and Its not the answer for the future.
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Martijnus
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| Fast924S wrote: | | Electric sucks. Its really heavy and Its not the answer for the future. |
I don't agree with that. There's nothing which converts energy to motion as efficiently as electric motors. A combustion engine never gets an efficiency higher than 35% or something like that, while electric motors double that iirc. And they have max torque from zero rpm.
The problem is the storage of the electric energy...there are several ways... directly generating electricity by means of a fuel cell or store the electricity in batteries.
It's just a matter of upgrading the batteries so they are more efficient.
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"Rule: Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun." (C. Bell)
924 "50-jahre", 1981.
MSII/extra, LPG, ITB's, 5lug.
To be turbo'ed in a while.
Killed her at the Nurburgring, Porscheless at the moment |
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Fast924S
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I agree that they are more efficant in their use of energy, put I'm talking about future use for better pollution and gas prices, most full electric cars plug into the grid to recharge, where do u think the power comes from, big mostly coal burning power plants, now electric is good but if there was a way to make them light weight long distance and self recharging without using the grid, then your golden
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Peter_in_AU
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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If we're all using "grid powered" cars then their effective pollution (from the power stations) is confined to a relatively small number of power stations. That's "small" as in small compared to the number of cars. You can then concentrate on cleaning up the power stations.
This argument of course ignores minor things like money.
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924aussie
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | If we're all using "grid powered" cars |
That sounds like we should be all driving the old Dodgem cars
Alan
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1998 Mopar Neon ... sick
2003 Challenger / Montery 4WD
1995 Hyundai Scoupe ... sold
1998 Nissan Silvia ... sons back from OS he has taken it
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pocketscience
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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Location: Sydney, Australia... mate!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| 924aussie wrote: | | Quote: | | If we're all using "grid powered" cars |
That sounds like we should be all driving the old Dodgem cars
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Like the electric buses in Wellington, NZ! Except it makes overtaking maneuvers tricky...!
G.
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ideola
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