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Great news - Sounds like a go for tomorrow!
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CorsePerVita  



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Great news - Sounds like a go for tomorrow! Reply with quote

I've pretty much made up my mind i want the car tomorrow. However the owner is very firm on ensuring i'll be happy with it and wants me to inspect it. I'm heading over to buy it and inspect it and haul it back tomorrow and have made the arrangements. I'll post pics of what work I have cut out for myself once I get it.

As long as nothing crazy comes up I'll have everything transferred over tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhh, which one? The one in Eugene?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't want to post till I got it, but yes.

The car is actually in much better condition than I expected. It does have a minor dent on the passenger side and a busted tail light. Cosmetically from the outside, it's actually great other than that.

Now, the engine bay, that's another story.

Good news is that when I pulled some things apart like the gas cap I saw no rust, as well, the oil cap and looking inside, the valve train appeared to have none.

Now the real mystery is that once I start pulling her apart and look in the combustion chamber whether or not that will have rust. The car "ran and drove before it sat", the question is, how MUCH will I have to do to restore it back to that state.

The car is in need of a bug bomb...

Other than that, the interior isn't too horribly bad. I'll end up replacing a lot of stuff. I've been told "I don't see how you could spend the money to replace that stuff, the car isn't even worth that much." but I see it as something I have always wanted, therefore, it's worth it to me, so that's all that truly matters in the end.

Should be a fun little project. I have a lot ahead of me. Getting it running right now is my main priority, from there it will be easier to keep track of stuff for myself and start doing cosmetic stuff. I'm pretty excited to get it all going.

Few things I found so far: The lock on the hatch had some ... issues. It seemed stuck or bound, after managing to work the lock and get it unstuck I found this...



The rest is mostly just really dirty inside, really needs to be cleaned, some stuff needs replaced but for the most part I feel like I really actually got a good deal on the vehicle for what I have to work with. Here's some more pics.

Realllllllly dirty trunk.



Dash




Dash by steering wheel, not too bad.


Actual exterior of car


and a pic of us towing it on the way back.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CorsePerVita wrote:
The car "ran and drove before it sat"

They all did that!

Seriously - looks like a decent proposition.

I would be tempted to coax the engine back to life before deciding to rip the head off...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leather wrapped 2-spoke steering wheel is fairly rare.

Aftermarket shift knob needs to go in the trash.

Nice work though, thanks for saving another one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good one to rescue. Nice. And welcome to the board.

I'm surprised Chrenan didn't mention getting rid of the seat covers as well as the shift knob. I guess when there are knobs about...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike924 wrote:
CorsePerVita wrote:
The car "ran and drove before it sat"

They all did that!

Seriously - looks like a decent proposition.

I would be tempted to coax the engine back to life before deciding to rip the head off...


Looking back at saying that, yes, that does seem kind of silly to say because that's true! LOL! haha

I'm going to at least get the fuel system all back and going and see if she'll run. If this thing REALLY pisses me off? I'll just get a new engine.


Chrenan wrote:
Leather wrapped 2-spoke steering wheel is fairly rare.

Aftermarket shift knob needs to go in the trash.

Nice work though, thanks for saving another one.


Did not know this. I like the steering wheel though, looks pretty neat, needs cleaned up though. Amazingly, considering it sat for 10 years the leather is all actually seemingly just fine. But all needs conditioning. Tonight i will see if the mildew-bucket can be coaxed back into being.


Slam wrote:
Looks like a good one to rescue. Nice. And welcome to the board.

I'm surprised Chrenan didn't mention getting rid of the seat covers as well as the shift knob. I guess when there are knobs about...


Thanks! Can't wait to get back in it and get to work on it tonight. Just sitting in it even when it isn't running is a childhood dream come true going "ITS MINE!" so i can't wait to get it going. Seat covers are fugly as hell though, agreed.

The shift knob AND shift boot are both going to go in the garbage. In fact, if there is a short throw shifter available for these I'd like to get one because it's like rowing a boat on the darn thing. It's going to be weird getting used to going FAR left and up for reverse. Middle up for 1st, middle down 2nd, right up for 3rd and right down for 4th. It's the opposite of what i drive now, lol. But i'll get it just fine.

Also, i'd like to add, not sure if anyone noticed but there is actually a dash cover as the original dash is damaged and cracked. Does anyone know if there is a better solution to these as this "cover dash" is warped and not really my taste. I'd prefer black. But instead, it's this funky grey/blue you're seeing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, keen eyes Slam, somehow I missed the seat covers! Seat covers are my most hated enemy.

I'd be carefull with a short shift kit. A short shift kit reduces throw and also tends to speed up gear shifts. Sounds good in theory. Until you realize that the 924 transmission is from another generation, a generation where a "2-count" between gears helped the syncros work and the transmission last. If you start quick shifting a tired 30 year old transmission that wasn't designed for that treatment in the first place you may be asking for trouble.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chrenan wrote:
Wow, keen eyes Slam, somehow I missed the seat covers! Seat covers are my most hated enemy.

I'd be carefull with a short shift kit. A short shift kit reduces throw and also tends to speed up gear shifts. Sounds good in theory. Until you realize that the 924 transmission is from another generation, a generation where a "2-count" between gears helped the syncros work and the transmission last. If you start quick shifting a tired 30 year old transmission that wasn't designed for that treatment in the first place you may be asking for trouble.


true. A valid point. I guess if i can find something stylish that doesn't look like a "beehive" as it was put then i wouldn't mind it so much. It just seems so bulky and huge.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, means you have to plan ahead and practice being smooth and precise with the shifting to reduce the loss between gears. Think of it as another challenge to learning to drive quickly

She looks good! Let us know if you need any parts/help....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, this car looks a lot like the one I started into 6 months ago...

Mine sat for 6 or 7 years (or so he said) but the key with engines that have sat this long (and i've learned!) Is the rubber rots. Everything rubber needs replacing.

EVERYTHING...

There are few exceptions to this, you may get lucky in spots but most likely... in hindsight, i don't think i'd ever buy another car that's sat for less than a year.. because truth be told... it gets expensive and time consuming, next thing you know it's almost a year before you can turn it over and drive...

Let me know if you face any struggles, lord knows mine's faced a ton so far that have all seemed easy to resolve.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't agree with the above post.

The 951 I bought in the fall hadn't sat at all. It had seen infrequent use in the prior 7 or 8 months.

Regardless, the first thing I did was tuck it into the garage and start replacing everything rubber in the engine bay. All coolant hoses (even the rad), all vacuum hoses, rubber intake boots, intercooler pipe collars, fuel lines to fuel rail. Its just cheap insurance, 20 year old rubber subjected to 1000s of heat cycles is complete garbage. Might as well replace it all at once and not have to track down numerous vacuum, coolant and fuel leaks as they pop-up.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Especially on a 944/951, with two fuel lines routed right over the exhaust manifold. . .


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
Especially on a 944/951, with two fuel lines routed right over the exhaust manifold. . .


I'll never understand that design feature. There must have been a better route than that.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They HAD a better route than that in the pre-85.5 cars. The fuel lines in mine come up on the driver's side and go across from there. Nowhere near the exhaust. Chrenan - Porsche will fix your fuel lines. Their recall program for these is still in effect - if you haven't done yourself it already.
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