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PORSCHEV  



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Cam bearing caps UPDATED WITH PICS Reply with quote

Were there 2 different types of cam bearings? I have 2 engines here and one has no inserts and appears that is couldn't take an insert. The other has inserts the same as a crank rod bearing would have except obviously smaller.

They have the same porsche part # except one is a 6B the other a 6I or something to that effect.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never seen a 924 2.0L head with replaceable bearings (doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I just haven't seen it). Is it possible that the one with bearings has modified in a previous life?
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the camberries have any stampings on them? Someone may have line-bored the head and found correct bearings. If so, I would like to do this to my spare head. . .I hate having no cam bearings.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to take some pics after supper and post them up.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would that be like camberries and vodka?
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOCO wrote:
Would that be like camberries and vodka?
Ah yes, the good ol' "carsmopolitan"
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cam Cod, actually.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why bother? The stock cam bearings, when properly oiled, will probably last as long as the driver....

Machining them for bearings will weaken them.

I have never seen replaceable bearings in a 924 head of any type. If Porsche ever did it, it would be shown in the PET.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porsche never did that. Must be aftermarket mod.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
Why bother?


I'd rather replace bearings than a 931 cylinder head if there were an oiling problem.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bearing caps yup been there corse only with a na motor.. porchev no pics of your other projects yet. maybe I didnt look close enough thuogh I checked out your site.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, one of the weak points of our engines is the oil tube above the cam... the must have been some people who encountered the nasty experience in which the tube malfunctioned, with all nasty side effects...

Stupid people ignore the noise and drive till it breaks down... and there you go, specially tuned cam bearings from hell.
line boring and adding inserts is quite a good option imho, especially when you have seen the damage from the oil tube... I'd expect the thing to malfunction again if I have seen it before, so I'd rather add inserts with a slight probability of having to change them when the tube breaks down, than buying another head twice or thrice or quadrupice. or five times.

I think it makes sense if someone has made these modifications. Today most of the cars do not have inserts, except from some audi's I've seen... so it probably isn't better....until it breaks due to oil starvation. I think it is better to replace a bearing insert than a complete head when you face the choice what to do with your damaged head.

Last week I asked a pretty woman behind the train station "would you give head for bearings?"...
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got busty last nite needing to go put a new prop of the boat and then had to go fishing early a.m.

I get pictures in the a.m.

BTW I need bearing caps 2-3-4..does anyone have any kicking around from an old head?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to get the numbers from those inserts. I have a head with some mismatched caps from another head I'd like to salvage if possible. I think you would have to do the same PORSCHEV if you find some different caps. Mine look like they line up but I don't trust them.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The head and caps are aligned bored as a unit. Not recommended to use caps from another head.
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