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PORSCHEV

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1901 Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: Cam bearing caps UPDATED WITH PICS |
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Were there 2 different types of cam bearings? I have 2 engines here and one has no inserts and appears that is couldn't take an insert. The other has inserts the same as a crank rod bearing would have except obviously smaller.
They have the same porsche part # except one is a 6B the other a 6I or something to that effect. _________________ 1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.
1978-#53 "D" track racer.
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: |
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I've never seen a 924 2.0L head with replaceable bearings (doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I just haven't seen it). Is it possible that the one with bearings has modified in a previous life? _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Do the camberries have any stampings on them? Someone may have line-bored the head and found correct bearings. If so, I would like to do this to my spare head. . .I hate having no cam bearings. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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PORSCHEV

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1901 Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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I'll have to take some pics after supper and post them up. _________________ 1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.
1978-#53 "D" track racer. |
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DOCO

Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 1111 Location: Keswick Ontario Canada
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Would that be like camberries and vodka?  _________________ Doco "where am i going and why am i in this handbasket"author unknown
79 924 N/A "Webster"
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| DOCO wrote: | Would that be like camberries and vodka?  | Ah yes, the good ol' "carsmopolitan"  _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Cam Cod, actually. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Why bother? The stock cam bearings, when properly oiled, will probably last as long as the driver....
Machining them for bearings will weaken them.
I have never seen replaceable bearings in a 924 head of any type. If Porsche ever did it, it would be shown in the PET. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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emoore924
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2822
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Porsche never did that. Must be aftermarket mod. |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'd rather replace bearings than a 931 cylinder head if there were an oiling problem. _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Bearing caps yup been there corse only with a na motor.. porchev no pics of your other projects yet. maybe I didnt look close enough thuogh I checked out your site. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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Martijnus

Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 2019 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: |
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so, one of the weak points of our engines is the oil tube above the cam... the must have been some people who encountered the nasty experience in which the tube malfunctioned, with all nasty side effects...
Stupid people ignore the noise and drive till it breaks down... and there you go, specially tuned cam bearings from hell.
line boring and adding inserts is quite a good option imho, especially when you have seen the damage from the oil tube... I'd expect the thing to malfunction again if I have seen it before, so I'd rather add inserts with a slight probability of having to change them when the tube breaks down, than buying another head twice or thrice or quadrupice. or five times.
I think it makes sense if someone has made these modifications. Today most of the cars do not have inserts, except from some audi's I've seen... so it probably isn't better....until it breaks due to oil starvation. I think it is better to replace a bearing insert than a complete head when you face the choice what to do with your damaged head.
Last week I asked a pretty woman behind the train station "would you give head for bearings?"...  _________________ "Rule: Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun." (C. Bell)
924 "50-jahre", 1981.
MSII/extra, LPG, ITB's, 5lug.
To be turbo'ed in a while.
Killed her at the Nurburgring, Porscheless at the moment |
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PORSCHEV

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1901 Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I got busty last nite needing to go put a new prop of the boat and then had to go fishing early a.m.
I get pictures in the a.m.
BTW I need bearing caps 2-3-4..does anyone have any kicking around from an old head? _________________ 1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.
1978-#53 "D" track racer. |
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endwrench

Joined: 07 Dec 2002 Posts: 1631 Location: Victor, Montana
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to get the numbers from those inserts. I have a head with some mismatched caps from another head I'd like to salvage if possible. I think you would have to do the same PORSCHEV if you find some different caps. Mine look like they line up but I don't trust them.
Todd _________________ '79 924NA. Rebuilt 9.5:1, MSDS header, Mega Squirt Injection, MJLJ-EDIS Ignition, 1.6L Whipple Charger and Intercooler, 10lbs Boost, 944 Trans, Custom HD Clutch.
"simsport" said....superchargers are better than turbos its official!.... |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: |
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The head and caps are aligned bored as a unit. Not recommended to use caps from another head. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy. |
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