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22 mm rear sway bar - too much?

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: 22 mm rear sway bar - too much? Reply with quote

I am being offered the rear anti-roll/sway bar from an M30 944 Turbo.

At the moment my car does not have a rear ARB, but inspired by Chrenan's installation, I'm thinking of doing the same.

I'm just a little apprehensive about what might happen with a 22 mm rear and a stock 924 front ARB.

Can any of you guys help out?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you'll get rid of some understeer; that's for sure.

Personally, I can't often go fast enough on public roads to see much difference in the anti-roll setup. If you do see the difference and it does make the car unstable you can always simply disconnect the links.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

. . .and if you later decide you don't like the balance, you can later increase the front to 23mm (M471).

Be careful in the rain till you have a good feel for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the rear bar really 22mm? Seems thick given that the 968 M030 bar is 19mm, although the 968 version is 3-way adjustable.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per the Pasha suspension prep article, the largest factory bar was 87-88 M030 944S at 20mm.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm Good point, Chrenan.

I haven't actually seen it yet so I don't know for sure.

It's being offered with 26 mm torsion bars from the same car (944 T M030). Is that credible?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure the sway bars on my 944 T (1987) are 25.5mm front and 16mm rear. Mine has the yellow Koni's all round, which I think is the M030 setup. The whole 944 thing is still new to me. I've measured the sways with calipers, so I know that is correct. In the 87 and later 944 T they switched to a larger hollow 26.8mm torsion bar, so the rear sway bar actually got smaller. The earliers Turbos had an 18mm rear bar.

Mr. Pasha explains it all here:

http://website.lineone.net/~dmsims/944t/SuspensionPreparation.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the guy on Ebay made a mistake with the front one.

It is not M030 because those have three holes in it (adjustable).
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and since you don't mention cost, you may be interested to know that factory new sway bars are pretty cheap for what you get. . .the adjustable 968/M030 unit is particularly attractive for $150.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rasta Monsta wrote:
Oh, and since you don't mention cost, you may be interested to know that factory new sway bars are pretty cheap for what you get. . .the adjustable 938/M030 unit is particularly attractive for $150.


Agreed, I have it on the back of my 924, very nice, bought new, great price.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dutch924-racer wrote:
I think the guy on Ebay made a mistake with the front one.

It is not M030 because those have three holes in it (adjustable).


Its only the rear bar that has three adjustment holes.

If you drive the car for real ( on a track for example) i think it will be quite a lot of oversteer. The pitch vs roll resistance will be messed up if only changing the anti roll bars. Its recommended that you change springs and torsion bars/springs to..
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woah, it's all too confusing for me.

It seems that no two P-cars out there have the same combination of front, rear ARBs, torsion bars, shocks, springs, etc, etc...

It's a moot point now as I'm not taking up the offer. I'll bide my time...
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