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PORSCHEV

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1901 Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: Steering shaft upgrade |
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Ok...the steering shaft u joints are getting pretty sloppy on my 924 (Neil's old car) and I too have to change it/rebuild it. I also forgot how much road feedback these 924's give out with manual steering. My plans are to integrate some technology that other car makers use on steering shafts. A vibration damper.
I plan to cut the center out of the porsche steering shaft and weld in this damper from a trans-am. I'll document the process and report on the results/road feedback. _________________ 1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.
1978-#53 "D" track racer. |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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i dont know if its such a good ideea........tho i know its more confortable. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
https://www.the924.com |
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RC

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Not reccommended.
Welding of high carbon steel alloys requires specialised heat treatment pre and post welding to reduce the possibility of potential fatigue related cracking and ultimate failure.
Even auto manufacturers utilising modern technoligies are reluctent to weld any suspension, braking or especially steering component.
Following the evidence from numerous coronial enquiries the aftermarket welding of any critical steering component contravenes our ADR (Australian Design Rules), and we seem to be years behind the rest of the world!
Roger |
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PORSCHEV

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1901 Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Now that you mention it ...I did closely inspect the trans-am steering shaft and there is no place on the shaft that it is welded. All sections either spline together, bolt together or slide togther(small square into larger square).
So there must be some logic in what your saying.
I guess I'll just have to get used to driving a go kart...because it reminds me of driving my sons Go Kart.
I read in the tech section that swapping in the 951 strut tops improves road feedback alot...anyone try that upgrade? _________________ 1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.
1978-#53 "D" track racer. |
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RC

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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PORCHEV, your son is indeed fortunate for the opportunity to appreciate that all vehicles don`t handle the same in reality as they do on the playstation.
For me personally, the direct steering and road feel are one of the bonuses of driving a 924 at speed.
However any play (slop) is undesirable and unsafe.
In my quest for an economical alternative to a new shaft from Porsche I approached a drive-shaft reconditioner and 2 bearing suppliers who all advised purchasing a new shaft.
Taking the haynes downstairs to the garage and comparing the pix of the LHD setup confirmed that the LHD LOOKS like a mirror reverse of the RHD rack with similar dimensions. The engine bay wiring loom exits from the position of the lower steering shaft bearing on LHD vehicles. It appears to be the same relative opposite position as the RHD.
Therefore I am assuming that there is a high possibility the shafts are interchangable, especially considering Porsche`s prefered use of all VW parts where available.
My shaft is 16.5" long overall. Even if only for my own curiousity, I am interested in establishing the OAL of the left hand drive version.
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| RC wrote: | | the direct steering and road feel are one of the bonuses of driving a 924 at speed. |
Amen to that!  _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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