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NO RISK NO FUN · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Cheltenham

ive found a 924 turbo that is being broken Yippee! and want to stick the motor and turbo in my 924 its the law!, the waste gate is missing tho (will a dump value replace it?) and the exhast gone too..maybe use my old one?do they all have intercoolers as that must have gone too..bonnet has a scoupe on it..?any ideas?

The head has valve stuck in it and wedged bucket rammed in head think cambelt went wondering the best and cheepest way to fix it will it as can get it all for about 100 pounds and another hear for 65quid,was going to take the block pistonsairflow meter and everything i can find and shove it all in mine..I dont really know much about turbos starting to wonder the best cheepest options for more power! need a cheep head gasket too..etc..Adam
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924guy · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:53 am Post subject:

its not just a drop in replacement, doesnt work that way. just about every system that makes the turbo go, is different than the n/a 924 and will need to be changed over or modified. Not trying to rain on your parade, but be prepared to spend some major dollars and tackle some headaches if you really want to try this swap. But if you do get it done, please keep us posted on your progress

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462avi · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject:

I am with 924Guy on this one. This topic has literally been beaten to death by non-turbo owners. There are some great mods that you can do to a N/A 924. For example install a 931 head, different cam, four carbs or individual throttle bodies. All I am say is better to use your money improving what you already have which is a running 924.

Geoff
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NO RISK NO FUN · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Cheltenham

well well well so what happens next..

(a) i buy the turbo motor and spend the rest of my life trying to figure out how the f**k it works and wonder if id get more power from (b)alternative

(b)need more info on what head carbs and cam will fit my 924(is this more power than the turbo idea ?)or..

(c)(well it dosent starts very well anyway.. have swapped cold start valve, air flow and fuel metering valve) is the fuel relay inportant as its got a jump wire stuck in it with a normal grey 42 wiper relay thing in it)also had fuel pressure tested and its losing pressure really quickly when pump is switched off..HELP?

also its got a gas conversion too which seams to fire up better on..so do I have to take this off if i run a turbo (as its dirt cheep to run..!half the price of petrol!)
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CBass · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada

-nick · Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA

Converting to a hydralic clutch is NOT a bolt-in swap. Everybody always forgets about that in these discussions

You cannot swap a 931 engine into a 924n/a without addressing the clutch which is a significant hurdle.

Ever notice the number of posts starting off with "I can get a complete turbo engine, I just need to swap it out for my n/a engine"? Has anyone ever seen someone actually accomplish this?

Maybe it's time for a sticky...
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Rasta Monsta · Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW

Nick, you're alive! Did you get the head on? What's up???
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-nick · Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA

Too cold!

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1980 931S
15psi boost, MS-II, EDIS, 951 IC, custom intake, Ford 5.0L throttle body, Forge BOV, WB o2, G31 w/LSD, 964 wheels, 968 rear sway, Bilsteins, 200# Welt. springs. A laptop, and a partridge in a pear tree.
1991 964 C4 Cabriolet

924guy · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:00 am Post subject:

supercharge the n/a 924.... nough said..

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78 924
82 931 SE "smokey"
99' VehiCross
Y2K Honda Insight
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CBass · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada

Raceboy · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2327 Location: Estonia, Europe

I did the clutch conversion and most likely I'm going to do this again on the other car

Not an easy job, but doable. It requires a nice dremel tool together with a whole bunch of stuff from the donor car.
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'91 944 S2, sold
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924guy · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject:

I was thinking about this a bit, and I beleive many people have the impression that this swap is like swapping a 260 cid small block olds for a 350 long block. flip the mounts and everything else just goes right in the way the old one came out besides a bit of fiddling with some cables.
what i was refering too above was the difficulty level. lets call a straight engine swap a one (same engine size/displacement.) adding an aftermarket turbo kit if you could find one (like an old BAE kit) would be a four maybe. building your own turbo kit or supercharger around a six or seven, depending on your knowledge and skills. doing a complete n/a to turbo would shoot it up to a eight or so i think, and then there using a different engine manufactureer, which id put at a difficulty level of ten being the most complicated. maybe that makes more sense here...

just trying to get across that these projects arent just a matter of swapping parts, they can get very invovled and before anyone starts, they should understand that and be prepared. most vehicles can be greatly improved with bolt on kits , the 924 isnt one of them when your talking hp gain imo. not that it cant be done, it just takes allot more dedication than a chevy would...
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78 924
82 931 SE "smokey"
99' VehiCross
Y2K Honda Insight
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NO RISK NO FUN · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Cheltenham

Any ideas on what head would fit my 924 if i want to use a 16 valve head and wear I can get bigger cams and which digital fuel injection system is best to convert and how its done ? also may run a turbo as well? and will it run on gas as it has lpg convertion ?
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81turbo · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: Oakland, CA

Buy a different car.