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Slam  



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: 924 idles too high Reply with quote

77.5 924. All emissions removed. Timing's on, plugs, etc. are good. No cold or hot start problems (I know, hard to believe...). Car likes to idle near 2000 RPM, and started this little trick after a new AAV was put in. I don't wnat to mess with the mixture until I've done as much else as I can. Idle bypass on TB is fully closed. I'm thinking vac leak somewhere but the intake tract boots are in good shape. Could this be injector seals?

Oh yeah - it's automatic. And it's white...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd check that aav.
When hot its supposed to be closed.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has someone played with the throttle stop screw?
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Slam  



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys - will check both. Didn't suspect the AAV was the culprit 'cause it's new. Throttle stop is so obvious I missed it completely.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also check for small cracks in the hose from the AAV to intake
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget, the AAV, (If that is the air bypass valve to give it a fast idle when cold) is adjustable. I messed with a couple from the junkyard before getting it right. It must be removed to be worked, the Chiltons manual has instructions I think.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay - AAV connector was one culprit. Clamped AAV line while engine was warm and idle dropped, so started there. Replaced the connector and that seemed to help. AAV works - checked that, too. However, after a run the car pulled its 2000 RPM idle trick again. Checked ground at connector - good. I know the AAV draws power from the fuel pump relay, so I'll have to trace that back to see if it's getting power properly. Throttle stop was fine. Got a question that may be related: When the distributor starts to fail (or the ballast resistors) will the tach needle float high and then return to proper reading? The car now cuts under hard acceleration - it's like fuel or spark are being cut off. I found a couple of loose wires to and from the resistors and a ground or two that needed fixing, so I did that. Didn't get it. Strange thing is, after I did this work the car ran fine all afternoon. This evening, it started acting up - after we'd bought gas from the local service station. Maybe we got bad gas?

Any tips?


-Update-

Car runs very well cold - just took it for a blast and it was fine. So if the AAV is the only variable apart from mixture, my guess is that the car warmed up, the AAV closed and the mixture ended up being too rich, killing the motor at WOT. Further guess is that PO adjusted mixture to compensate for AAV connector being ^#$%ed. Am I on the right track?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AAV shouldn't affect mixture greatly...

Are you sure you're not confusing it with the WUR?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check your timing
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, augidog, I tweaked the timing. There's another thread near here all about that adventure. I finally got it. Thanks.
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