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squish area and quench?

 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: squish area and quench? Reply with quote

Does the 924 have a good squish area and optimized quench?
I say no on the squish and yes on the quench. But im just guessing.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have some of what your using.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ozzie wrote:
I'll have some of what your using.

I thought it was funny when I first read it also. But the reason I ask is because if your develeping a base advance table it works into the calculation
http://www.billzilla.org/engcombust.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save your money. Get your hands on Euro pistons and put them in for a 15hp gain. Get it running right and you will be happy. I don't think we can make our cars that much better with what we have.
As you know I have done everything except putting in a turbo.
hey, I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the n/a engines have *any* squish area. It's been a while since I had one open, but from Chrenan's pic -



You can see that the pistons are pretty far recessed into the cylinders. With the flat head, you would need a piston with a 60cc+ dish to get any squish with a reasonable CR.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that reminds me, i need to start working out again, getting too much squish, and not enough quench..
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick is correct. I only chimed in to say squish and quench are the same thing. It is the area where the piston and the head surface come close together. Good quench is usually considered under .040". The NA piston sits a full .260" from the head!

Todd
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So thats why we can deck the block
about .040 or.050 right tod
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joes924Racer wrote:
So thats why we can deck the block
about .040 or.050 right tod


Yep, that's what I did.
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