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OutOfTheBox · Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 434

Because it eats ;

Oil based/painted walls......like your cylinder bores.

Brass hardware..........like your valve guides, most bushes

Chrome hardware.....like many bearing surfaces

Latex painted walls (any finish).......like all those o-rings.

Copper

PORSCHEV · Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject:

Sounds like you found this out the hard way

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garyj19 · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 226 Location: Connecticut

or maybe he ws hired as an advertising agent for one of VIM's competitors
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OutOfTheBox · Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 434

Heres an experiment I conducted with Handy Andy, another product form Unilever, also bleach/detergent based, with scouring granules.

I filled the jar with a litre of motor oil

Then I added just a few drops of Handy Andy

WELL! it looks like it almost dissolved.......lol

Of course it didn't dissolve, whats more something in the handy andy is reacting with the oil causing a slight blackening of the surface between the
oil and the handyandy.

I then shook the concution up, in an attempt to get it dissolve and VOILA.

Looks like someone barfed

In fact what has happened, is it has homogenised, this is what happens when you force two things thats DONT naturally mix, to mix.

I then put the homogonised muck, between my clean fingers, and could immediately detect the scouring granules, now mixed with the oil.

To counter claims that a cars oil filter would take the handyandy back out of the oil, I took LAB GRADE filter papers, and poured some of the crap into the filter funnel.

Damn !!!!! after an hour only a few drops, seems like homogonised mixes might clog your oil filter up.

But alas, still the same homogonised muck after filtering.

I can report that the filter paper removed the scouring granules.

But then these were ultra fine grade Lab papers, that took an hour to let a few drops of oil through.

My conclusion is that using JUST A FEW DROPS OF a bleach based detergent in your engine, to free up the rings is DUMB!

I can see why it works, but could see it only being a solution if ;

1. You tend to build up dud motors.
2. You want to sell a 924 to someone, and its smoking a bit much.
3. You have a race to win and an ego to save, and you'll try anything.

This IMO ranks with putting saw dust in your gearbox to "cure" problems.

JB 924 · Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 606 Location: Hessen, Germany

Way to go OutOfTheBox, you own!

You get an A+ for effort and the suppoorting evidence

Slam · Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:16 am Post subject:

Local wrecker just pours Borax into the cylinders. Works for him, he says. I giggle at that, especially considering he flies an ultralight...
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OutOfTheBox · Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 434

bass gt · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:56 am Post subject:

OOTB,

Just one problem with your scientific research here. Handy Andy is a cream, judging by what it says on the bottle there. Well, despite the fact that it has scouring particles in it, it's still a cream. So no suprise if it homogonises. If you really want to test this out, do it right or not at all.
Close but no cigar.

OutOfTheBox · Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 434

its bleach with scouring agent. cream or powder makes no difference.

In fact it looks like in most countries it is only sold in cream, so anyone taking your advice may use the cream.

Scouring powder in your engine, yeah right

What next ? You'll be telling me assembling an engine in a dusty dirty enviroment(where there are many airborne scouring elements) doesn't shorten engine life ?

Do you think that when you change a cars oil and oil filter, that the old oil and anything in it, are totally removed from the motor.

bass gt · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:46 am Post subject:

ha,

So when did powder and cream become the same thing?? Look at the ingredients, i don't think so.
Anyway, this is all a moot point. All i was saying that it has been done many times before, and i for one have had no adverse experiences. What Nick chooses to do is up to him.
Let's just draw this to a close and give us all a shout when your 500hp motor is up and running, Vim'd or not

Without wishing to seem rude, all we seem to hear from you are constant procrastinations about this or that or the other. What ever happened to the $85 adjustable cam gear??
There are plenty of guy's here who have walked the walk. Have their car's running with proven results and lots of experiance. Thus far, i think you fall a tad short of that.
Keep up the good work.

See Ya

OutOfTheBox · Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 434

JB 924 · Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 606 Location: Hessen, Germany

Bass GT, maybe there is something I don't know between you two, but I think when OutOfTheBox said your car was ugly, he was kidding. Your car is the coolest 924 I've seen so far.

ushawk1 · Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 63 Location: Northwest, WA

I'd give this a Carlos Mencia "Dee Dee Dee" Retard Award. Why the hell would you be pouring kitchen cleaner in your oil in the first place? Sometimes some additives can help, but when your engine has problems like bad smoke, stuck rings, etc. the only real solution is rebuild. Unless your a shady used car dealer.
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