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doomer77
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 Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: Still we're trying one more time.. / New car! |
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I cannot stand to see my car in the garage everyday knowing I cant drive it! Call it withdrawal sympthoms, I know what I need.. I need another 924 
So I found one in an add, got the price down by half and Im very tempted to buy it. There are some troubles with it thou. Both the waterpump and the fuel pump are no good. But those parts I have in my car. Therefore I wanna how, how much hazzle is there to changing the pumps? Is it something that can be done in an afternoon by me or does it require special tools/knowledge?
Erik
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Belgian924t
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Hello Erik,
did you find the car on the net? Do you have a link? Is it a blue one?
Greetz
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doomer77
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:34 am Post subject: |
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it is this one
http://www.kapaza.be/detail/2291128/Porsche_924.html
although i wish it was the blue S on kapaza.. did you see it? 1,650€! And it looks like its in very good condition.
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Khal
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Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Still we're trying one more time.. / New car! |
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| doomer77 wrote: | | So I found one in an add, got the price down by half and Im very tempted to buy it. There are some troubles with it thou. Both the waterpump and the fuel pump are no good. But those parts I have in my car. Therefore I wanna how, how much hazzle is there to changing the pumps? Is it something that can be done in an afternoon by me or does it require special tools/knowledge? |
Good for you! So, the one you're looking at is another Turbo?
If it is, I guess the short answer is yes and no...
As I understand it, it's not too much hassle to change water pump but as with just about everything on the Turbo, you need to take other bits off (sometimes a lot of other bits  ) to get to the part you want to change.
As far as I know, it doesn't require any special tools to change the water pump. We pulled the whole head off mine and didn't use any special tools (well, you need a torque wrench to put it back on, of course). But it wasn't a quick job and I doubt the water pump will be very quick, either. It always takes longer than you think it will
The fuel pump(s) is easy, though. You can definitely do that one yourself. The thing to check is if the in-tank/pre-pump is working (if yours has it?). It wasn't until my main/external fuel pump failed that I found out that my in-tank pump didn't work either! If you're replacing one, you may as well replace both.
I don't know how much the fuel pumps are over there. But down here they're quite expensive, they cost me almost AU$600 for both. I think the Yanks get them a lot cheaper. Of course, if you replace the pumps yourself, then you have no labour expense, which is good! (even though they only charged me an hours labour to replace the pumps... and they probably did it in half an hour!)
Still, there's the other concern... if the fuel and water pumps are bad, how long since it's been driveable? How long was it driven with a bad water pump? i.e. did they only find out it had a bad water pump when the car overheated and warped the head? 
How many other problems does it really have?
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timstar92404
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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yeah there's probably other things wrong with it also. If it's not driveable when Yo buy it and you can't properly test drive it how will you know if it will be driveable after the fuel pump and water pump. You don't want two broken porsches in your garage.....
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timstar92404
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think his previous 924 was a turbo..... and that one in the pic looks like a na.
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doomer77
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Im confused too.. I think n/a's have waterpumps too? this one is defently not advertised as a turbo. and it says there has been 3 years since anybody drove it. you are right, there are proberbly more things wrong with it than only the pumps.. anyway to test of the engine is turning properly without starting it?
erik
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Mike924
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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All water cooled cars have water pumps.
You can take the spark plugs out and turn the engine with the starter motor (if the battery's any good), but I don't know that it would tell you much (other than the starter motor works)...
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Mike924
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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My advice is, if you've got the cash, buy it!
You can then get at least one car going with parts from the other car. You'll learn so much (that you obviously don't know now) in the process. You'll be mobile and in the meantime you can fix up the other car, sell it and recoup some of your cash. Win/win.
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Khal
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| doomer77 wrote: | | Im confused too... |
Sorry, my fault. I had it in my head that you had a Turbo and were going to buy another one.
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timstar92404
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't buy non running car unless you're looking for a project car. If you want a daily driver probably not a good idea.
water pump is really easy to change on a n/a that's the first thing I did on my car and I thought it was going to be hard but it was very easy. Fuel pump is also easy to change unless it's the in tank fuel pump.
how much did you offer? I wouldn't pay more than 500 bucks for a non running 924 that needs repair.
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Mike924
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But, Tim: Doomer already has a car. Unless exactly the same things are broken in both cars, he has everything he needs to get at least one car going.
Don't waste any time, Doomer, buy that other 924!
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timstar92404
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I guess so but I remember him saying that he doesn't like working on the car and just wants to drive it.
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Mike924
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| timstar92404 wrote: | | Yeah I guess so but I remember him saying that he doesn't like working on the car and just wants to drive it. |
You're just not going to get that with a 20+ year old car!
Have bought that other 924 yet, Erik? 
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5150
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Same with any car that's a fun drive, tend to get thrown around more than your average daily driver so bits break and you have to fix them. Mine's coming up on 28yrs old but still gets driven the way it was designed to be used, break it then fix it, all part of the fun 
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