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doomer77

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Huskvarna, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:09 am Post subject: head gasket replacement |
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is this a repair that is possible to do yourself? if so, how? _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?
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chris24

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 334 Location: boston/nottingham UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Done a head gasket on a similar engine, but never a 924. So "Yes" should be the answer with a bit of time and patience.
This search result may be quite useful.
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=15495 _________________ 1983 - 924 (185K miles) - not mint
1985 - 924 (148K miles) - mint
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fergie
Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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It is a fairly straightforward procedure... disconnect everything that is attached to the head, remove the intake manifold, unbolt the downpipe from the exhaust manifold, and pull the head bolts.
Lining up the new gasket while reinstalling the head is alot easier with two people. But then you just torque the head back down and reconnect everything and youre done. _________________ 1996 Honda del Sol Si Turbo
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moone924

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 868 Location: Douglas Wyoming
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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I did it twice a few years ago. I had a haynes manual, and just went for it. I think I unbolted the downpipes from the exhaust manifold and pulled the head with the exhaust manifold attached, and re-installed with the exhaust manifold attached..... to make it easier _________________ Ryan Moone
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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It is easier to leave the exhaust manifold on and have it on when refitting the head.
Remove it off the head after the head is off if you want.
I refitted my exhaust manifold after replacing all the studs while on the car. A real PITA. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
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doomer77

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Huskvarna, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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im most worried about having to flatten the top so the gasket wont blow, what kind of tools do you need to do that? _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?
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moone924

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 868 Location: Douglas Wyoming
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: |
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there's a tightening order that keeps the gasket flat.
You should probably get a haynes manual _________________ Ryan Moone
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doomer77

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:31 am Post subject: |
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hmm, ive got a hanyes, thanks for bringing that up _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?
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Chrenan

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Do you mean flatten the top of the engine block? The block will have to be removed from the car and taken to a machine shop to accomplish that. _________________ 1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan |
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doomer77

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 266 Location: Huskvarna, Sweden
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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thats what i meant, not only flatting the gasket, but the whole top
so my question restated would be
can you flatten the top of the engine block at home and what tools do you need?
an alternative might be to buy a new top thats been pre flattened, whats the status on that? _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?
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Chrenan

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: |
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If you are worried about the top of the engine block being warped (not flat), remove the entire engine, strip it down, and bring the block to a machine shop. I'm not sure what you would need at home to do it yourself, but my guess is very few people would have the tools... _________________ 1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan |
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fergie
Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: |
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You shouldnt worry about the blocks straightness for the gasket to seal. It is made of cast iron, and i really doubt its going to warp before the aluminum head melts off or something.
However, using a straight edge and feeler guage, check the sealing surface on the bottom of the head to make sure it is within tolerance, as according to your haynes manual. After a certain amount of use it is likely to warp the cylinder head a little, and should be resurfaced. _________________ 1996 Honda del Sol Si Turbo
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helowrench
Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 44 Location: Dallas
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:58 am Post subject: |
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While you have the head off you miight want to replace the water hoses that are between the engine and the firewall. I do not know if they can actually be changed with the head on. I changed ALL of my hoses and had the radiator cleaned/cored/tested and changed the water pump when I did the head so I could have a little peace of mind about the cooling system.
If I remember correctly I left both the intake and exhaust manifolds on the head and removed them after the head was off.
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Dans931
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 45 Location: Baltimore
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: head gasket |
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The N/A is alot easier to change than the turbo. Use a turbo headgasket, they are stronger. Replacing those hoses is a great idea; it is so hard to get back there. Check your exhaust manifold for cracks. All the torque specs you need will be in the Haynes. Also replace the o rings on the injectors and the timing belt. Its a good idea to have the head checked out at a shop and have valve stem seals put in.
Daniel
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Dans931
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 45 Location: Baltimore
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: head gasket |
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The N/A is alot easier to change than the turbo. Use a turbo headgasket, they are stronger. Replacing those hoses is a great idea; it is so hard to get back there. Check your exhaust manifold for cracks. All the torque specs you need will be in the Haynes. Also replace the o rings on the injectors and the timing belt. Its a good idea to have the head checked out at a shop and have valve stem seals put in.
Daniel
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