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[Lord Fester]

So I've got a '91 Lincoln 4.6L In beautiful shape currently in a crashed Town Car. Nice light V8 that spins up nicely...

I've got an '87 924S/auto that's giving me FITS withthe ignition circuits

Seems to a natural choice to somehow gene splice the two together. Anyone make a bellhousing adapter?
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'87 924S slushbox (nice tourer)
'87 VDub Cabriolet "hers"
'87 VDub Cabriolet "ol skool" mine
'82 Scirocco (organ donor)

Living the dream. One broken part at a time...

[Chrenan]

Well, space shouldn't be an issue, the Porsche 2.5 litre will easily fit in the Lincoln engine bay.
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1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan

[mrmad]

[Lord Fester]

[CBass]

I'm not familiar with the automatic of the 944, so I can't really say how easy it would be to swap... I can assure you that nobody makes an adaptor kit though.

Renegade Hybrids would be the guys to talk to about this.

www.renegadehybrids.com

They've probably given it some though so far.
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'81 931 in various states of assembly

[PORSCHEV]

Renegade doesn't do ford swaps...furthermore they are pushing the LS1 kits more and more rather then the LT1.
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1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.

1978-#53 "D" track racer.

[Adie]

really really really easy, in fact if you have welder and a spare weekend you can do it, you will need a lot of room, a piece of thick card and some steel. O extended the bolts on the trans coupler and bolted it to a steel plate the plate was drilled to the crank pattern and the spacer behind that was to the correct depth according to the adaptor plate. As your using the Porsche trans adaptor, you will be using the bellhousing, so unbolt the bellhousing (4 bolts at the rear) and find it's centre, draw around this on a piece of card and mark all the bolt holes, next you need to transfer the card to the lincon engine and useing the centre, make sure it's clocked at 12 and draw and mark the lincon mounting holes. next transfer the card to some 6mm steel and start cutting and drilling, the spacer for the 'flywheel' need to be of the correct spacing to take into account the new plate, then you just bolt it all back together, find what needs doing to the sump and make, adapt the engine mounts to come off the front x-member. headers are going to be a hurdle to gt over but a headment one with plenty of bends will provide you with material to work with. HOWEVER I have a rover V8 and it has eaten 2 box's I now know how to fix them and it goes like this, use a VW010 low friction plate X4 @$2 each, high is also 4 of but there $1.30, a clutch band $9-22 and a gasket set is $15. it's not as bad as it all looks but these box's, while built to handle more HP, do NOT do well with torque, that said both of mine were very used, unknown condition and CHEAP, I should have got one rebuilt and then made an assessment (which is what I'm doing at the moment) however I do not expect it to last forever.
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924 zero cylinder race car,

[ESC944]

Adie,

Glad to see you posting.

Good information too. Always gald to read your stuff!

[Lord Fester]

Ah hah!


Thanks Adie. I knew there should be a way. I'm just wrestling with the fact that I should go through with it. Any header set from a Mustang "should" fit. It's pretty tight in those quarters. If not, I'll just stick 'em out the fenders like a set of zoomies I was hoping for a kit since time is at a premium, but oh well.

It really kills me that my '87 Veedub Cabriolet "beater" will flat out stomp my Porsche in the "fun factor"department. Given it's got a few mods, but still.... It's not like there's 10 years of engineering seperating them. Hell, a late model Hyundai will run circles around it at this point. (here comes the hate mail)

Can't handle torque you say? Even more reason to sell it off I guess.

The wife won't even drive it. She once was enough. What does she drive? A '90 Audi 100. (I hear the 5 cyl is a bolt-in to the 924...) And an '87 VW Cabriolet in the summer.
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'87 924S slushbox (nice tourer)
'87 VDub Cabriolet "hers"
'87 VDub Cabriolet "ol skool" mine
'82 Scirocco (organ donor)

Living the dream. One broken part at a time...

[moone924]

Why not just convert the 924 to a manual trans... as it will be a lot more fun to drive. Save the V8 for the american beast it belongs to
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Ryan Moone

Always shopping for a nice s2 931 to baby.
New philosophy : one car project at a time.

[Lord Fester]

[Adie]

If you don't mind changing the gearbox tehn do it, it takes about 45 minutes to do, mine is as quick if not quicker than a 951, and it's a nothing special engine, it's only 3.5 and it has gobs of torque, a tuned 951 will waste my auto, but my auto only cost me 2000gbp inc the car and it's been the most used car I own, i was doing 1000km week untill the trans started giving me more trouble, but once I rebuild the old one and add a proper cooler I will be able to give a valid opinion, however used transmissions are a gamble.
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924 zero cylinder race car,

[Lord Fester]

As a commuter the auto is fine. I also got a deal on my auto, but the it's the damn ECM that's conked out. I can't trust it to start on a reliablel basis.

What can be done to alleviate? And once done, what can be done to the standard 2.5 that's in there? It's a lackluster engine to say the least...
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'87 924S slushbox (nice tourer)
'87 VDub Cabriolet "hers"
'87 VDub Cabriolet "ol skool" mine
'82 Scirocco (organ donor)

Living the dream. One broken part at a time...

[Adie]

Although the 2.5 is a very caperble engine, it has 2 main flaws, 1st is that it's day has passed, it's no longer the early 80's and although the car was not designed to be a traffic light missile, the reality is thats the way we drive now, from stoplight to stoplight, anyone quoting the characteristics of it on the open road lives a long way away from reality. 2nd is that when it was released, the engine was at the top of it's game, no chip add on's increase in compression, or exhaust system makes any real difference. Your either left with a turbo conversion (callaway did it) however I really don't see the point, just because it was rare, an egyption dog turd is rare but I would place no great value on that either, the financial implications are huge. Turbo pistions and supercharge it???? nice, again it would be a financial burden, a new ecm, it would make the car reliable, sellable however you have the auto back there which makes it far less desirable, so either a long term project and get a crashed car (for less than £1000 they turn up) and make yours a 5 speed (that will give you a lot more of an edge on your engine, mine with a V8 has power all the time, I can't imagine how bad a standard engine is) the cars were made for either transmission so it would be a bolt appart and bolt together conversion. You will end up with a spare engine, a new ECM, enough parts to keep the car going forever. if your lucky you can get a spare TT and bolt that in the donor car and use it to fit your conversion then just transfer to lot over to your other car and you will have a V8 5 speed, and a huge grin. It has to be said that I am talking about N/A engines here and that the turbo (with a large investment) can be made to produce very good power outputs, and you can also see some return on resale, it all depends on if you have fallen in love with the car and it's caracterisics or just the badge on the front. Porsche's are after all just another well made car, no better or worse than a high end BMW of the time (another really good candidate for V8 conversions) and if you have ever had a LS1 190 merc with a decient set of shocks you will always look fondly at them.
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924 zero cylinder race car,

[Chrenan]

Adie, how long have you been in Canada now? I was just curious as to why you still quote prices in £? Old habits die hard?
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1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan