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My brake upgrade (warning, lots of pics)
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macBdog  



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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: My brake upgrade (warning, lots of pics) Reply with quote

So after nearly hitting some drunk guy wandering about on the road at 4am, I decided to spend some money and effort on my braking system. The plan was also to increase performance when hitting the track. Heres how it panned out. First things was to pull off the calipers in order to rebuild them and take the lines to the hose place which makes up the steel braided ones:




The brake lines in the rear are little tiny things that fit up near the torsion bar. Hard line then runs to the rear calipers so its a little different from the setup at the front. Next the calipers were stripped and pistons pulled out of the cylinders. Here you can see the condition of the old seals and bores and also the fluid that came out of them. Yuck!





Caliper frames were wire brushed and painted red. The special red paint attracts positive ions which are transfered to the rotors and decrease rotational friction so you get an extra 20hp on the dyno.



A before and after shot of the cylinders and pistons.



New Zimmerman rotors came back from the machinists who did the slotting at this point and were installed. Home made tool from a 35mm socket welded to a big heavy piece of scrap steel was used to remove the castelated axle nuts. 5 hits with the hammer and off they came.




Calipers going back together with new seal kits and red rubber grease to keep them moving. All bearings were re packed with fresh clay based high temp grease.



Rears were installed first, then the fronts.




Overall the result is very positive. Pedal feel has increased substantially, there is no dead point in the travel of the pedal, nor is there a point where the brakes go from "just touching" to "locking up". Its a very smooth, linear feeling. Still gettings used to it. Managed to get it all done in time for my turbo oil seals to give up the ghost on the second lap of the aforementioned track day! Heres the resulting pic of Crunchie57 and Khal doing the "oh dear, glad that wasnt me" look


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J1NX3D  



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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, great work! where did u source the rotors. this job is on my to do list *page bookmarked!*
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beauutiiifuuul
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Modoc  



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mind if I ask what the price all said and done was on this?
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: My brake upgrade (warning, lots of pics) Reply with quote

macBdog wrote:


nice, does your wife/mother know you used her plate for this??
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macBdog  



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modoc wrote:
mind if I ask what the price all said and done was on this?


Rough price breakdown in $AU

Front Rotors: $80.00 ea (x2)
Rear Rotors: $120.00 ea (x2)
Slotting (per rotor): $40 (x4)
Front Lines: $50 ea (x2)
Rear Lines: $45 ea (x2)
Paint/Brake cleaner/wire wheels: $20
Caliper seal kits: $12 ea (x4)
Grease: $10
Split pins for the rear: $2
Extra brake fluid: $10

Total of AU$804 or US$612
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Khal  



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks even more impressive in the metal. Those rotors really fill up the wheels

Shame about the turbo seal going. Man, did it look expensive Big black smoke, some flames!
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Paul  



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work!

Sorry about the turbo!
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good jobman nice upgrade & well documented.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J1NX3D wrote:
wow, great work! where did u source the rotors. this job is on my to do list *page bookmarked!*


Rotors were from performance9. Dave from the shop suggested and sorted out the slotting.

Llamaguy wrote:
nice, does your wife/mother know you used her plate for this??


Luckily no wife or mother around the house... that plate is cleaner than the average one found near my housemates
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Warwick  



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What rim with and offset do you use?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how calipers clean up black..Hey did you think of
painting them any other color..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job man. It looks very good.
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macBdog  



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warwick wrote:
What rim with and offset do you use?


Whatever the standard offset (53mm?) is for 6 inch standard 924 rims. I have a set of spiders and cookies and they are both the same.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to do that to my 924 but i never put a calapher togeter in my life
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