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JtWo  



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Drifting Reply with quote

Well I've been interested in this type of sport for a very long time and noticed how light my 924 is. Now I wanna get prep my 924 for this(don't tell me to get a 240 or something else, I like my 924). I know what I need, but I don't know if those parts are available for this car. I need strut bars, tie rods, coilovers, disk brakes, LSD, etc. Do you know of places where I can get these? I've searched, but I only got stuff like normal struts and springs and crap. I'm not worried about power yet.
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Cedric  



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why do you need disc brakes(rear) when those brakes are enough for trackdriving, does drifting require so much more breaks than that ?

And the same for strutbars and coilovers, seems like you read a jap tuning catalogue.

Instead you can change the existing springs/torsion bars and get stiffer ones, and get some adjustable dampers to...

The biggest problem as i see it is getting an affordable LSD, maybe somone else could give you some advice....

besides the lack of an lsd, i think the 924 would be a great drifting car, have tried some at an airfield but on wet tarmac and the car impressed me a lot..

good luck !
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maireeka  



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I dont think you really need all that crap. Stiffer suspension will help but some of that stuff is not really necessary I think. Lotsa tires and a LSD is what I'd put on the list.
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JtWo  



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want the disk brakes because the rims that I plan to get, I don't think they would look good with drums in the back.

For the suspension, I wanted coil overs and strut bars because like to tinker with how hard or soft the ride is. This is going to be a daily driver, so if I go on a date, I don't want a bumpy ass ride, but once I'm on the track, I don't want body roll. Strut bars is because I'm worried about the old car having chassis flex.

As for the tires, I have ALOT of old mustang rims with about 80% of the tread left in the back of the shop from totalled mustangs and such. I won't be using my daily's for practice.
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924RACR  



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will get back you after this weekend - racing.
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924RACR  



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of my suspension stuff I get from Paragon Products - http://www.paragon-products.com/

The 944 stuff mostly copies over. Strut tower brace has difficulty clearing the intake (I have the KLA one for $130), but if you use the brackets and make a bar to stretch around front of the intake, you'll be set. Definitely needed once you've replaced all the front bushings, the front end will stretch there.

They've got the coilover setup too, inexpensive. Disc brakes are best just swapped from a parted-out 944, cheapest way to go. LSD. What year/trans do you have?
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JtWo  



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhh...as far as I know it's the stock 77 tranny and engine. My mom said she had something done to the carb. I don't know what else.
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jamez  



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go with disc brakes, its not that hard or expensive to do. If you try too much drifting I bet you will over heat drum brakes in a hurry...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JtWo wrote:
My mom said she had something done to the carb. I don't know what else.


You are running carbs? What type of setup?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No mac-dog Im guessin they didnt know it has FI.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All 924's came with mechanical fuel injection, there shouldn't be a carb unless someone has replaced the original fuel injection with one.

First things first, freshen the suspension with a new set of bushings. Polyurethane are nice to have, but ithere is no complete kit you can find. Closest thing is using teh front end kit from a Golf/Jetta, 75-84. Next, make sure that your 4 bolt brakes are up to snuff, lots of service life left and in good working order.

Don't worry about tie rods unless your mechanic tells you they need to be replaced.

Best choice for coilovers would be the Paragon Products sleeve kit, $240 for the front, it fits over your original strut, although I'm pretty sure you'll have to weld on teh lower perch for the threaded sleeve to sit on. You won't need rear coilovers, the 924 has height adjusting cams in the back that you can use to corner weight the car. I'll get to that later.

First thing you should be thinking about is a set of good struts and shocks. Bilsteins or Koni's are the way to go, especially adjustable Koni sports. Figure around $170 each for teh fronts, and $130 for the rears. You can get KYB's or Tokicos for less, but you get what you pay for. Adjustability is a big deal when it comes to modulating a slide.

Get yourself a 968 M030 rear swaybar, it is much larger than stock and adjustable. This will make a big difference in how tailhappy your car will get. You'll probably want #250 or #300 lb springs to go with the coilover set, and that should give the car a very neutral to oversteery balance, perfect for drifting.

You'll want to corner weight the car, this entails putting each wheel on a scale, a truck scale works, and adjusting the ride height of the coilovers and adjusting cams until your left to right weight is the same at the front, and at the rear. This will make the car much more stable through transitions.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah if i were u id stick to the 924, i take mine drifting all the time and they are an awsome car to do it in... but im lucky coz when i brought my car it already had an LSD
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