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Eric M · Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Champaign, Illinois

OJ\K so the right side of my bumper sticks out a full inch farther that the ohter sitde.

I took the bumper off and the shock things that hold the bumper on to the car off. One is 1 inch longer thatn the other.

is that one got puched or that one got pulled, or did they make tow different lengths?

the right side of my car has some damabe to it (prior to me) and I wonder if they replace the thing with the wrong size?

any ideas?

endwrench · Joined: 07 Dec 2002 Posts: 1631 Location: Victor, Montana

They are designed to colapse in the event of a crash. Sounds like one did. Many people colapse them both on purpose to create a more Euro look.

Todd

gohim · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA

I have a spare front bumper that is probably going to the recyclers that has two good shock/mounts.

If you want them, you can have them for $20, plus the shipping. I should be able to get them in a USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate Box for $8.50 with Delivery Confirmation.

Let me know if you are interested, and I will remove them from the bumper and verify that they will fit in the Flat Rate Box.

Eric M · Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Champaign, Illinois

Thanks, I'll proly just callaps the one I got. I lek the "tucked bumper" look anyway. I have a tree in my fornt yard, maybe it will "help me out"

924 turbo · Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:49 am Post subject:

I have several bumper shocks laying around if you end up needing one.
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flosho · Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject:

Just take a drill and drill the bumper shocks, thats what I did and it worked quite well all of 15 minutes including clean up.
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gohim · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA

Personally I think it foolish to dump the protection of the bumper shocks the way that people drive and park now.

The only thing I think is dumber, is getting fiberglass bumpers for a street car. Ever seen what happens when someone backs into a car wearing fiberglass?

I have seen too many people parking by the braille method, because they never learned to parallel park, or are not watching when they pull out of a space.

-nick · Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA

" The only thing I think is dumber, is getting fiberglass bumpers for a street car."

Porsche must be pretty dumb then to have designed all the RoW 924's...

The shocks only work in slow speed head-on bumps. Unless someone is parallel parking at over ~10mph, you're ok parking. Fender-benders are rarely head-on and also rarely that slow.

You could get struck and killed by a comet by living above-ground too (odds go way up if you even think about getting into a car). Weigh your risks...

nick

gohim · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA

So nick...

Who said that all minor impacts occur on the front bumper? 1/2 of all front and rear collisions are on the rear of cars.

Are you saying that all 924s (other than the market US cars) came with fiberglass bumpers (front and rear)?

And the fiberglass bumpers will take all impacts up to 10mph without showing any damage (front and rear)?

Where can I get a pair of the those magic fiberglass bumpers?

My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

The ROW bumpers are a composite no doubt but they are not fiberglass.

IMHO They would hold up nearly as well as any US alloy bumper in an impact test because they are a realatively lightweight yet very dense composite.

Nothing like the fiberglass ones that I have from the aftermarket guys. Those you could crack just by bumping them hard with a knee.
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-nick · Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA

"1/2 of all front and rear collisions are on the rear of cars. "

Yep, and 1/2 of all left and right hands are left. ???

Decaf is an alternative...

nick

gohim · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA

My924gtc, this is my point exactly...

If you have fiberglass bumpers on your car, every little tap becomes a fender bender, because the fiberglass shatters, and allows the other car (or bicycle or shopping carts) to bend your fenders, and everything else that would normally be at least partially shielded (like the windshield washer reservoir), headlight assemblies and ac plumbing.

Nick, you are assuming that the person with the fiberglass bumpers would be involved in a frontal collusion. My point was that 1/2 of the time, it's the rear bumper that would be tested. Rear bumpers only had to meet a 5mph standard at the time out cars were built. Porsche, and most other car manufacturers did not build 10mph rear bumpers, alloy or fiberglass. Personally, I would perfer that someone bumping my car in the average daily incident run into a stronger metal bumper, than a piece of cosmetic fiberglass that shatters at most any touch. Ever seen what happens when a tire fails on a fiberglass car. I have seen a blown tire peel the entire side off of several Corvettes at a friend's body shop. One poor guy had the same thing happen to his car twice within a year. His insurance company dropped his coverage on that car after the 2nd incident.

Also, most insurance companies are not going to pay for replacement fiberglass components. Check your insurance policy, if you are carrying insurance. Most policies specifically will not cover non-original equipment modifications to the car. They often will pay to put original parts back on, but will not cover any additional damage caused by the removal of the original part. Someone backs into your fiberglass bumper in the parking lot, and the front of the fenders are damaged as a result, don't expect your insurance company to pay for the fenders. In the case that someone hits, your car, and they are at fault, in many cases the other driver's insurance company will not pay for replacement aftermarket components, and will not pay for additional damage caused by the removal of the safety equipment (ie bumpers), as they will consider the owner of the car as contributing to the amount of the damage.

Yes, in some cases, fiberglass parts may have an advantage or metal parts (on a track where weight loss is allowed), but for practical everyday driving on the street with stuff is falling off other vehicles into your path, road debris is kicked up by the car ahead, and drivers can't park, fiberglass bumpers are not a good idea.

Gram · Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:06 am Post subject:

Didn't we establish that ROW cars (or at least Euro) had aluminium bumpers? I know what a fibreglass boat sounds like when it's knocked, and my bumpers sound very different, way more like ally. Don't ask me to drill a hole..
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Ozzie · Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:13 am Post subject:

I just had my front bumper off and discovered broken/bent mounting brackets.
Instead of a bolt going into the bracket it had been bastardised and took nearly 2 hours to remove.
The bumper was a good 1 inch off center, which I was trying to correct.
I had to cut a piece out to get a spanner to the nuts the PO had put in.

It is fiberglass.
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Gram · Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:05 am Post subject:

Interesting. The 924 goes into a panel shop soon for the odd repair. Guess I'll know then what they are..
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