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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7934055139&category=33736

it seems a bit spendy , and they say it replaces the linkage ( rather than the shifter itself?).. .im a bit confused by it, but intrigued...
thoughts?
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CMXXXI · Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 1939 Location: Vicksburg, MS

"One size fits all"...?!?! Across all 924, 931, 944, 951 models and model years?! Somehow, I don't think so. Isn't the actuation mechanism completely different in the snailshell 5-speeds from all the others?
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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

This one just hit ebay as wellhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7934229952&category=6763

I have emailed them for more info but wanted to get some feedback from you guys as well.
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John Brown · Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 903 Location: Leesburg VA

As to the first link; believe it, one size fits all. Except the snail shell. No one in the 'outside' world knows about the snail shell. And, the price is around what they have always sold for.

The second link is intriguing. Have not seen it before. For $40 bucks I may get one just to see how it works.
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924RACR · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:15 am Post subject:

I very much like that second one, having fooled around with the stock linkage setup many times. Been reluctant/disinterested in shortening my shift throw. The plastic bushing part this block replaces is indeed the source of plenty of slop.

No, you don't have to remove the tranny to install this, but you do have to get underneath the back of the car, and kinda have an idea of where you're going.

We installed a short-shift kit in my buddy's 951S, not too difficult. Primary concern, I think they ought to sell these things with a short length of safety wire to allow you to re-wire the tapered bolt for the linkage while you're in there.
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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

The guy emailed me back and said that he would give us a good deal if we wanted to buy a number of them and the price would be determined by how many.

I have not confirmed the mechanism on the 4 speeds but I thought they were the same as the Audi 5 speed set up. Anyone? He did say that they will work on all 5 speed applications all the way up to the 968. Is this possible?

The guy said that he would double check to make sure because I suggested he gaurantee them to fit all the variants as part of any deal we would make for a quantity.

Is this something that we might want to buy as a group?
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924RACR · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:31 am Post subject:

Agreed, I fully expect that the part would fit the 4-speed. Wish I had the PET working on my computer, could verify that.

I have to admit, I'd also be curious to compare the cost of the stock part from a dealer.
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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

I have not loaded the PET into my new computer yet. I might just do that right now and verify this info.

I would also be interested in the dealer cost, but I doubt it would be less than $40 and would still be plastic.

I'll load the PET and get more info in a few.
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gohim · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA

I might be interested in a couple for my cars.

But I have had group buys go bad before, with the person/s organizing the group buy getting stuck with units orders by deadbeats.

Let me guess that the purchase/price negociations include the purchase of a sample at the final group buy price so it can be evaluated (quality of design and manufacturing) before the full commitment for the whole quantity.

Perhaps the group of people who will be purchasing on acceptance of the evaluation can each chip in for the evaluation sample. Anyone who chips in an even share (percentage) of the cost of the evaluation sample would get the right to purchase at the negociated price.

People who do not pay in their share, do not get to order at the same price at the pioneers, or are not eligible to participate. And, if allowed to buy in the group deal, pay in a little more to compensate the the early committing people for taking the risk.

Smoothie · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:12 am Post subject:

The first picture seems to suggest that you're getting everything there, but in the description it says, "Kit includes; detailed instructions, shifting block, spring clip, lock nut." - that may include only what you see inside the bag in the second photo. -So that should be clarified before ordering.
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My924gtc · Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1362 Location: 248

I am not under the impression that you get anything other than the block. I think the first photo shows how it is installed, not what the auction includes. If you got all that for $40 I'd be worried, even at $80 that is too good to be true.
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Smoothie · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:29 am Post subject:

PET shows almost the same part number for 4 & 5 speed, all years, (but with different letter suffixes) for the assembly they call "intermediate shift lever". It basically includes everything shown in the first picture of that ~$40 auction. PET doesn't give a seperate part number for just the "block" - it's included with the assembly.

Part numbers for the "intermediate shift lever" assembly -
477.711.103.B - '76-'79 manual 4-speed
$146.78 - http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearch/pel_search.cgi?command=DWsearch&description=477711103

477.711.103.C - -'80 manual 5-speed (016.8/9(Audi(non-snailshell))) - superceeded to 944.424.013.02 which sells for at Pelican for
$161.40 - http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearch/PEL_search.cgi?command=DWsearch&description=94442401302

477.711.103.D - '81-up manual 5-speed (016.8/9) - also superceeded to 944.424.013.02 as above
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924guy · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:45 am Post subject:

i think id prefer to go with a complete assembly, imho, better to get the whole deal than mix and mix and match... shorter shift means more punishment to the components..and ive split a "dog bone" in half before, even without a shift kit.. these are generally old parts...and it looks like it would be cheaper to get the whole new fabricated assembly than buy the "block" and find oem replacement parts for the rest (if their even available..)
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Voodoocars · Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Coventry

You don,t need to buy one-any good machine shop could make one of those alloy blocks easily.I made one out of a block of nylon at work and it transformed the gear shift.You can also alter the shift throw by cutting off the pin on the gear lever and rewelding it further up the lever.This is also a point where it wears and the gear changebecomes sloppy.

924RACR · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject:

I would rather have one in nylon, personally, for long-term wear. Actually, I'd prefer delrin to nylon; hard, but softer than the steel the rest of the shifter.

BTW, I've disassembled these components before. It can be tricky sometimes, if there's a lot of corrosion - that's why I am glad to see that they include a new circlip and locknut
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