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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: tool question Reply with quote

Since I didn't get into tools until I was state side again (lived in spain for 3 years my dad was in the USAF) . In the US ratchets come in 1/4" 3/8" 1/2" 3/4" and 1" square drives. What does the rest of the world use for ratchets? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here, mate. 1/2" would be the most common.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw lots of 3/8" & 1/2" stuff when I was looking recently. Some 1/4" stuff but I can't recall seeing 3/4" or 1"
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems odd doesnt it? the whole world is spinning 12mm sockets on 1/4 inch spec'd wrenches...standarization is good, but youd think non-standard (another funny thing because most of the world uses metric, though we still refer to non metric measuring as "standard" ) would adapt the metric system to rachets as well (6.xxx mm socket driver??)
the world is a funny place....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that I use my 1/4" ratchet more than anything else on the 924. Occasionally the 3/8" but hardly ever use the 1/2".

I agree on the oddness of the metric system not being refered to as the "standard" but that is because we in the US act like everything we do is "normal" and everyone else needs to adapt to our way of doing things. Our units of measure being a small example.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on now.
I'm a carpenter & would be completely lost trying to measure everything out in centipedes & millipeters!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yah - and we'd have to rename "inchworms" to "twentyfivepointfourmillimeterworms" or "twopointfivefourcentimeterworms" or "zeropointzerotwofivefourmeterworms" or "twopointfivefourtothenegativezerofivepowerkilometerworms".
So you see the inches/feet system's more efficient by far.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.

Another problem with the metric system. When you put your best foot forward would become your best 0.3048 meters forward.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can thank (or curse) WWII for the SAE becoming "standard". The US had the most manufactuing ability and the allies were having trouble working interchangeably on equipment. There were a LOT of systems in use ... even the thread forms were different. The US shipped a lot of machining tools to England and British Standard Whitworth was created for some compatibility.
It was far more expediant and cheaper to develop a socket type wrench set with one handle that could be used on many fasteners by interchanging the sockets. Even the metric fasteners were different ... a Japanese 7mm bolt would not fit a german 7 mm nut. ... and the Italians (the US had the manufacturing capability to supply the wrenches so they got SAE drives)
Can you imagine the frustration of the guys tasked with reverse engineering say the Japanese Zero? They didn't even have a wrench they could take it apart with!
Anyway if you look hard enough you can find ratchet wrenches with strange hex sockets and sockets with a hex protrusion for fitting to the ratchet... you flipped the ratchet over to reverse it.
Sorry for the long dribble ... the history of fasteners is facinating to me
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, keep in mind guys, the US did not invent the foot/inch system of measures, we inherited it from the Brits. Yes, it is true we were once a colony.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy yours today!

http://www.tv-showroom.com/html/Metrinch.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah speaking of tools... hey jpab

BTW I have two of those...thanks anyway. I have a wonder socket too...you know the one with the pins inside the socket that "adjust" to any size bolt head...yes I am kidding...except the part about you being a tool.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you guys measure things with centipedes. They are so squiggly and short.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good mate of mine has a set of those Metrinch tools. They seem pretty good, actually. Decent quality.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my ex, my dad and I visited my grandparents a couple of years ago and because my ex hadn't been there before, we went on a tour of the open cut coal mine there..
earlier on in the stay we'd gotten into a conversation about imperial to metric conversions (my grandfather was a civil engineer) and had spun my ex's head around several times with the complexity of it.

anyway, so there we are in the tour bus looking into the open cut mine and the tour operator is telling us all about how big stuff is etc, and he mentions how much water they're pumping out of the hole all the time.. some kilo-litres per day, and my grandfather chips in with the question "that seems like a lot of water, what's that in hectare-feet per hour?"
the guys blank look was priceless!
(I can't remember exactly, but it's something like 12 conversions to convert between the two of them.. )
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