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wozz101 · Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 17 Location: Victoria, Australia

I have recently purchased a 81 924T (932 in Aus) and dissappointed with the long/slow shift pattern especially between 1st and 2nd. I've heard you can fit a short shift kit but have been unable to find a supplier in Australia. Any details or info on what is required would be appreciated.

thanks
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Wozz
1981 932

Khal · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject:

With a handle like "wozz", shoulda guessed you'd be an Aussie

Dunno where you'd get a short-shift kit down here. Perhaps Performance9 might be worth a call?

I've got an '81 Turbo myself. I'd be interested to know whether you find something...
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'80 924 Turbo

CMXXXI · Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 1939 Location: Vicksburg, MS

It my not help y'all Down Under, but there was a group buy here on the Board back in November for a short-shift kit that (I think) fit all the Audi-based transmissions. I think these two threads may have the info. Does not work with the Snailshell transmissions.

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=13445
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=13380
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'79 Eurospec 931

Khal · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:

To the best of my knowledge, we've all got "snailshells" down here (I certainly have)

A quote from John Brown in the second thread. Doesn't sound promising...

Smoothie · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:49 am Post subject:

If (that's a big if) it can be done without resulting in the shift rod rubbing against or hitting anything -
It looks fairly simple to shorten the snailshell shifters' throw. It would be done at the shift lever...there are 2 points where the rods attach - one below for the guide rod and one above for the shift rod. Just drill another attachment point above the upper attachment point (how far above and if it can be done at all are dependent upon whether or not there's clearance to attach the upper rod higher up), fit a guide tube as with the existing attach.points and attach it securely (probably weld).
Long story short - moving the rod attachment points further apart will shorten the throw.
You could drill holes in a piece of scrap iron to experiment with and see what difference results from different spacings.
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"..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."

'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox

numbbers · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:05 am Post subject:

Well, I just figured that I would cut about an inch off of the top of the shift lever, the damn thing sticks up way too high, and it shift real quick if you just grab the shift lever on the shaft part, below the knob. Of course the boot will have some extra material bunched up at the bottom, but it shouldn't look too bad. But, since the 1-2 upshift has to be done rather slowly, to avoid grinding gears, because of the crappy Porsche synchro's, I don't know if it is worth the trouble.

I have an extra shift lever, so maybe I will try it when I put my baby back on the road in the spring.
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1980 924 Turbo

simsport · Joined: 06 Nov 2002 Posts: 573 Location: UK Warrington

Dont be too eager to speed up the change on the 931 box.
In my experience they are weak as it is, any truly quick shifts run the risk of buzzed dog teeth. Sometimes the standard longer throw 'buys you time' to carry out the change.
I once drove a 911 Turbo which was exactly the same, funny enough they use almost the same dog teeth!!

Cheers
Simon
PS I buzzed my 931 gearbox several times in the last few seasons of comp use, perhaps me, perhaps the box but I now have a 944s2 box!
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Smoothie · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:29 am Post subject:

There ya go - a way quicker easier solution. Cut off about the top inch and use it as a template to scribe, then grind the shape of the top at the new lower down top so the knob fits back on the way it should.
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"..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."

'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox

-nick · Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA

I lobbed off about 3/4" off the top of mine. Not to shorten the throw, just to get the shifter to sit lower. I think the stock height looks odd. I still have to shift like a turtle to keep things from grinding.

Oh, you don't even need to recut the indentations into the lever. The shifter will slide down on it with no problem and it definitely isn't coming off without a lot of force.

Otherwise, Smoothie has it dead-on. Increasing the distance between the holes in the rod will decrease the throw. There is a shift kit for 928 owners which is exactly that and works with our snailshell's too. Lookup 928 performance suppliers and you should find somebody doing it.

nick

924 turbo · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:23 pm Post subject:

I put a short shifter in my 928. It's almost hilarious to compare them side to side. If I were to do it again, I'd just cut an inch or so off the top and be done with it. The shifting in the early 928 boxes is pretty awful.

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Khal · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:

Pity procon wasn't still here. He'd love that last one as his avatar

(Good job with the animated GIF's, BTW. Very clever

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'80 924 Turbo

wozz101 · Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 17 Location: Victoria, Australia

Have confirmed mine has the "sail shell" (016Z) gearbox so it sounds like the kits mentioned in the previous threads are not suitable and I had better look it after as they tend to break easily!! Looks like the easiest option is to crop the shifter, replace the bushes and change softly.

thanks for the dialogue
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Wozz
1981 932

Khal · Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:14 am Post subject:

Carris · Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject:

pretty sure the 016z is the audi transaxle, the snail shell is the G31/XX one. The Audi transaxle still has a bell housing on it and the gearset is behind the axle line, I think. The snail shell has the gearset infront of the axle line. Mine is G31/03 I think.
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Chris

Khal · Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject:

You may be right. I'm certainly no expert.

I was under the impression that the simple way to tell was that the gearbox with 1st on the dog-leg was the "snailshell" type? i.e.;

R.2.4
1.3.5

I thought that all Turbos here in Oz -or at least Australian delivered, not grey imports -came with the "snailshell"?

I thought the Audi trans had 1st in the "standard H", i.e.;

1.3.5
2.4 (dunno where reverse is...)

I may have misunderstood. But I know for sure that mine's got 1st on the dog-leg!

Can anyone confirm?
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'80 924 Turbo