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[wdb]

any tinkerers near this vw type II trans wanna pick it up to see if the lsd in it will fit the 924/931 .
I believe the input shaft is the same as a 924 which is also a vw based tranny .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50454&item=2474264210&rd=1

[wdb]

heres 1 for a 968 $325

http://stores.ebay.com/German-Auto-Dismantlers

[AndyFranklin]

That is just around the corner from me. Not sure I'm in a position to figure out the tinkering, though. What would need to be done to check?

[wdb]

I am not sure , I guess the shaft size and spline count for the shafts it connects to , whether male or female , and the bolt holes for the ring and pinion mount . a few members have worked on there traniies , maybe they could help here ?

since eventually all the 924's are going to need a tranny rebuild , and paying porsche a premium ,to get VW OEM parts ,simply because porsche is keeping it a secret which vw parts they used ,does not make alot of sense . I think most of the 924 tranny parts are from the vw type II tranny , and the vw lsd units sell for $150 - 300 NEW . not to mention the seals and syncrchros and the possibility of changing the gear ratios in the 924 to get a more useful first gear better acceleration and or more fuel economy by using cheap vw parts ,it just makes sense for us ,as a community, to try and put this together ,by identifying which vw parts we need . AndyFranklin ,if you are willing to go and get that tranny and take it apart , I'll put up $50 to help pay for it , hopefully it will sell for less than that , in which case I'll pay for it . we will need 924 tranny parts and/or measurements to compare to . who has a tranny and or parts already or soon to be out of there 924/S/31 ? anyone else interested in helping with this project ? there are a few special tools and jigs that are needed to dis and reassemble these trannies , anybody have the ability to make them ? I think there fairly simple but some metal working tools are needed .

[924RACR]

I have a stock 924 diff out of a 5-speed which we can compare with. We pulled it out to swap in a 951 LSD. I'm up in Detroit, of course.

I could dig out that from storage and provide dimensions.
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Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype

[AndyFranklin]

OK - someone remind me Friday to bid on the thing.

[wdb]

Friday ? you mean bright and early, thursday morning @ 6 am ! ealy bird etc .

[AndyFranklin]

OK - it's at $76 with 9 hours to go. Are we still interested?

[wdb]

that depends on whether or not you or someone else is going to put up $50 or so dollars to win the item . we dont neccesarily need to buy/own a trans . we just need a week or so to examine 1 . are there any VW bbs boards like ours , maybe we could post on thier parts 4 sale/wanted section to look at/borrow a vw type II trans . I would think even a bad trans would give us the needed info . what do you think ?

[AndyFranklin]

Placed a max of $85 - currently high bidder at $81.

Vaughn - are you coming to Mid-O for the PCA may 8-9? If you are I could pass it off to you to check against the one you have out. Or we take it apart Saturday night.

If we win this thing I thought we could get the address of the other interested parties from the seller and contact them when we are done.

[AndyFranklin]

OK - I won the bid AND have already have a buyer for it. So now we just need to learn whatever we need to learn. I should be able to pick it up Sunday.

[924RACR]

No, I don't really do the PCA events. Good work!

I need to get to my storage unit and grab the old diff to take measurements.
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Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype

[wdb]

cool , um I hope there isnt going to be a problem selling it ,because in order to measure ALL the parts ,you'll need to disassemble it , and I think some special tools are needed to put it back together the right way . setting the pinion gear and stuff .

do you have a micrometer ? might need 1 . what about a digi cam ? pics would be nice . will you at least be making the $81 back when you sell it ? I dont want you getting shorted on this deal .

I'll look around the net to see what useful info is out there to see if we can start a plan or something .

scattered info details of the internals


http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9702/transtalk.html

http://www.extremebuggies.com/pitlane/00001.asp

http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:y-8ldJOK95YJ:www.boydhouse.com/darryl/buggy/crownpage3.doc+vw+trans+gears&hl=en

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/9008/index11.html

[wdb]

some more details

diagrams


trans
http://www.longenterprises.com/diagram_folder/diag10_irs_type2_transmission.htm

diff
http://www.longenterprises.com/diagram_folder/diagramlist.htm

I just noticed that the vanagon has a 228 mm clutch disk , isnt that the same size as the 931 ,think its cheaper than the ford bronco 11 ? see link
http://www.longenterprises.com/parts_list/partslist_2700.html

[wdb]

lsd was option M 220 for the type II

http://www.geocities.com/vwtyp181/181_3-3.htm

vw car part interchages limited . beattle 181 1200 1300 14 15 16 etc.

http://www.angelfire.com/oh/vwthings/images/interchange.PDF

thing club links

http://w.webring.com/hub?ring=vwshrine