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timstar924
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 284
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject: door lock doesn' t work |
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Okay i bought a 78 porsche 924 about 2 months ago and the passenger door from the start did not open from outside cus the thing you pull from the outside is not connected to the cable. anyways i don't care much about that door but i have a problem with my driver door first since i got it it sticks out of the body a bit like a centimeter or so... when closed and the metal think on the body that it locks into has gotten loose twice and i had to tighten it cus once i made a turn my door opened!
also my driver door lock doesn't work anymore it used to be stiff but i opened it up and somehow it doesn' twork anymore at all... the key won't even turn it a bit so i have to leave it open always. Can a local mechanic shop fix this or do you have to get a new lock and the whole door mechanism system and where would you get this for a 78 and would a mechanic shop be able to get this and do this properly and would it cost a lot of money? also what about my door sticking out.
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dpw928

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1860 Location: owasso, ok 74055
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:36 am Post subject: |
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The thing on the body (called a striker) that has gotten loose is also used to adjust where the door closes. Loosen it and move it toward the passenger seat a centimeter then retighten it.
Try putting a lubricant in the door key lock. If the seal is gone from the lock, the tumblers get corroded and lock up. Don't use a lot of force when turning the key after using the lube or you could destroy the tumbers.
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timstar924
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:49 am Post subject: |
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i have already tried moving the stricker over to the body but it won't close then and it still looks like its sticking out, i guess its cus i don't know how to exactly position the stricker on the body like how far up or down and left and right.
i also have tried putting lube in the door lock, glunk liquid wrench but it did nothing so its not the actuall lock thats frozen i'm guessing it must be another component attached to the lock that is frozen and won't let it turn. |
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timstar924
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:53 am Post subject: |
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i have already tried moving the stricker over to the body but it won't close then and it still looks like its sticking out, i guess its cus i don't know how to exactly position the stricker on the body like how far up or down and left and right.
i also have tried putting lube in the door lock, glunk liquid wrench but it did nothing so its not the actuall lock thats frozen i'm guessing it must be another component attached to the lock that is frozen and won't let it turn. |
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timstar924
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: |
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i have already tried moving the stricker over to the body but it won't close then and it still looks like its sticking out, i guess its cus i don't know how to exactly position the stricker on the body like how far up or down and left and right.
i also have tried putting lube in the door lock, glunk liquid wrench but it did nothing so its not the actuall lock thats frozen i'm guessing it must be another component attached to the lock that is frozen and won't let it turn. |
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dpw928

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1860 Location: owasso, ok 74055
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Try adjusting the striker a little at a time and watch the heighth as well as the depth. On the key lock, a tumber pin may be worn out which means it is time to take it to a locksmith. They can probably fix it in 5 minutes. Took me an hour and a half to rekey and install mine.
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timstar924
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:24 am Post subject: |
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so i should remove the lock and take it to a locksmith?
i don't think its the actual lock that is stuck but the mechanism that it is attached to cus it was working although not smoothly but i touched a bunch of stuff in there to grease them and then it stopped working at all.
also how do i remove the lock ? |
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dpw928

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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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I would just take the car to a locksmith. The door handle comes off by removing the bolt/screw on the door frame just behind the handle. After removing the screw, the handle will slide forward then out. A locksmith should be able to replace/repair the tumbler without removing the linkage. BTW next time use a dry (graphite) type lube.
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timstar924
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| how do you know if its the tubler that is broken it could be that the actuall lock isn't broken rather other barts connected to the lock are frozen or broken could the locksmith fix these also. i thought you would have to replace them and can't fix them cus there are a lot of little parts. Also where the hell would you find a locksmith i think you can only phone a locksmith to come over to do the work would the locksmith have the proper parts to replace if broken in my lock mechanism not just the lock, i would think not but just asking. |
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Chrenan

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 3903 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:00 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't call a lock-smith, or any paid professional, until you figure out what the problem is yourself. Take the interior door panel off and check all the connecting mechanisms from the door handle to the door catch and lock button. It will be pretty easy to see if one of these is broken or disconnected. If you do eventually narrow it down to the tumbler, you can remove it, phone a locksmith and ask to bring it in to them. This will minimize the paid professional time you have to cover and thus minimize the cost of repair.
Also, you should update your profile so it shows your location, it is always nice to know.
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dpw928

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1860 Location: owasso, ok 74055
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:07 am Post subject: |
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The tumber pulls/pushes linkage which moves the lock mechanism. These don't normally lock up, they break at which time the tumbler will spin freely.
The tumblers on the otherhand will lock up if corroded or a foreign article gets jammed in it. The tumbler itself is a standard tumbler for VW's and Audi's so a locksmith should have no problem repairing or replacing it. If you want to try cleaning it go ahead. The key set is removed by removing the linkage and screw at the back. Be careful with the slide tumblers on each side as they are matched/lined up for your individual key. Clean the inside with spray type brake or carb cleaner then relube but don't use grease.
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