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1977 Porsche 924 Engine removal - how?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:56 am    Post subject: 1977 Porsche 924 Engine removal - how? Reply with quote

I've got a Haynes manual coming in the mail, but I don't think it'll be coming before this weekend, and that's when I'll (hopefully) be with a peer of mine trying to get out my engine. If someone out there knows how to remove the engine, and can give a handy list of steps, I would be much obliged.

Sorry for asking such a newb question...stupid slow snail mail.

-Jeff
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most take the engine out of the wheel well. We took it out the top and put it back through the wheel well.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To remove a 924 engine,

#1 drain all engine fluids (antifreeze and engine oil)

#2 unplug and label all electrical plugs (you dont have to label if you have a good memory)

#3 disconnect the air tubes running from throttle body to fuel dizzy,

#4 remove the fuel injectors and fuel lines running to the WUR and cold start valve, and then undo the fuel dizy and move out of the way

#5 remove the rad,

#6 disconnect exhaust,

#7 attach motor hoist

#8 disconnect 4 bolts holding belhousing to torque tube

#9 lower cross member and front suspension (it is worth it, plus it will give you an excuse to get that needed alignment done)

#10 undo ALL motor mount bolts lower engine slightly and remove the mounts themselves,

#11 remove the actual motor mount arms from the engine (makes it WAY easier)

#12 slide engine forward enough to clear the torque tube shaft,

#13 remove engine from bay

*note, steps 1-6 dont have to be followed in that exact order, but steps 7-13 should be followed fairly close to that order
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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#8 disconnect 4 bolts holding belhousing to torque tube


This will make life easy, I undid all the bolts attaching the bellhousing to the motor, and it was a pain in the ass. I pulled 2 motors so far, it takes about 2-3 hours if you follow Lizard's directions. If you do it how I did it (wrong), it takes 3-4 hours. I'll be making a guide when i pull my 78's motor. It's really not that hard at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done it by removing the bellhousing bolts as well however that adds about 3-40 min of work, oh I forgot to add to my list

in between 6 and 7 is to disconnect clutch and throttle cables
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I'm doing the electric thing, so I still need the bellhousing - I'll be leaving it. But thanks for the walkthrough, it will be very helpful!

How strong do you think the bellhousing + torque tube is? I have a 120 lb electric motor to strap on it, I'm wondering how much I'll need for other support besides the bellhousing.


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Lizard  



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend that you ave some support for the electric motor up front, and I would also recommend you leave the bellhousing on the engine when removing the engine, and once out you can then remove it
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having just recently done my first 924 engine replacement I'd definately go as Lizard says for the steps and certainly leaving the bellhousing on will save you a lot of time pulling it - it'll be easier to remove the bellhousing once the motor is out simply so you can get your hands in there.

I also found removing the steering column/linkage gave a bit more space to move around (it's only two bolts).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God darned snow!

Looks like removal this weekend will be a no-go, and this is worse then you think. The guy who I'm selling the engine to is on vacation from college right now, and after this weekend will be gone till May 7th. That's a 2 month delay in progress. Gurshdurn this weather!!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found they come out really easily if you use a plasma cutter.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol!

I really wish I'd dropped the cross member on my car when we did our engine recently, seeing my neighbour standing on top of the new engine (supported by the hoist) trying to kick it into place was a real stress-out situation!

What I learned is - the 924 engine swap is real easy to do, but you've got to go the whole hog and remove everything, otherwise there's just too much sh*t in the way that will slow you down, cause frustration and at the end of the day end up broken when you become impatient..
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