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Fuzzbeaner

Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 236 Location: Central MA
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:56 am Post subject: 1977 Porsche 924 Engine removal - how? |
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I've got a Haynes manual coming in the mail, but I don't think it'll be coming before this weekend, and that's when I'll (hopefully) be with a peer of mine trying to get out my engine. If someone out there knows how to remove the engine, and can give a handy list of steps, I would be much obliged.
Sorry for asking such a newb question...stupid slow snail mail.
-Jeff _________________ A Ravaged '77 924 (Electric Conversion in Progress) |
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Most take the engine out of the wheel well. We took it out the top and put it back through the wheel well.
Vince _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
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Lizard

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:15 am Post subject: |
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To remove a 924 engine,
#1 drain all engine fluids (antifreeze and engine oil)
#2 unplug and label all electrical plugs (you dont have to label if you have a good memory)
#3 disconnect the air tubes running from throttle body to fuel dizzy,
#4 remove the fuel injectors and fuel lines running to the WUR and cold start valve, and then undo the fuel dizy and move out of the way
#5 remove the rad,
#6 disconnect exhaust,
#7 attach motor hoist
#8 disconnect 4 bolts holding belhousing to torque tube
#9 lower cross member and front suspension (it is worth it, plus it will give you an excuse to get that needed alignment done)
#10 undo ALL motor mount bolts lower engine slightly and remove the mounts themselves,
#11 remove the actual motor mount arms from the engine (makes it WAY easier)
#12 slide engine forward enough to clear the torque tube shaft,
#13 remove engine from bay
*note, steps 1-6 dont have to be followed in that exact order, but steps 7-13 should be followed fairly close to that order _________________ 3 928s, |
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1982Porsche924

Joined: 14 Nov 2002 Posts: 679 Location: Cupertino, CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | #8 disconnect 4 bolts holding belhousing to torque tube
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This will make life easy, I undid all the bolts attaching the bellhousing to the motor, and it was a pain in the ass. I pulled 2 motors so far, it takes about 2-3 hours if you follow Lizard's directions. If you do it how I did it (wrong), it takes 3-4 hours. I'll be making a guide when i pull my 78's motor. It's really not that hard at all. _________________ 1979 Porsche 924 "S"
Engine: Euro pistons, Light Flywheel, Weber TB, Bursch Header, Cam Wheel
Suspension: Front coil-overs, adj sways, Solid bush. Thicker tors. bars, 5-bolt, BBS rims
Body: Fiberglass widebody kit, 931 Nose |
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Lizard

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:10 am Post subject: |
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I have done it by removing the bellhousing bolts as well however that adds about 3-40 min of work, oh I forgot to add to my list
in between 6 and 7 is to disconnect clutch and throttle cables _________________ 3 928s, |
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Fuzzbeaner

Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 236 Location: Central MA
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Hey, I'm doing the electric thing, so I still need the bellhousing - I'll be leaving it. But thanks for the walkthrough, it will be very helpful!
How strong do you think the bellhousing + torque tube is? I have a 120 lb electric motor to strap on it, I'm wondering how much I'll need for other support besides the bellhousing.
-Jeff _________________ A Ravaged '77 924 (Electric Conversion in Progress) |
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Lizard

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 9364 Location: Abbotsford BC. Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:12 am Post subject: |
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I would recommend that you ave some support for the electric motor up front, and I would also recommend you leave the bellhousing on the engine when removing the engine, and once out you can then remove it _________________ 3 928s, |
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5150

Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 767 Location: Blyth, Northumberland, UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Having just recently done my first 924 engine replacement I'd definately go as Lizard says for the steps and certainly leaving the bellhousing on will save you a lot of time pulling it - it'll be easier to remove the bellhousing once the motor is out simply so you can get your hands in there.
I also found removing the steering column/linkage gave a bit more space to move around (it's only two bolts). _________________ Mars Red '78 Euro 924 n/a
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Fuzzbeaner

Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 236 Location: Central MA
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:25 am Post subject: |
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God darned snow!
Looks like removal this weekend will be a no-go, and this is worse then you think. The guy who I'm selling the engine to is on vacation from college right now, and after this weekend will be gone till May 7th. That's a 2 month delay in progress. Gurshdurn this weather!!
-Jeff _________________ A Ravaged '77 924 (Electric Conversion in Progress) |
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PeterW
Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 78 Location: Auburn WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| I've found they come out really easily if you use a plasma cutter. |
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5150

Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 767 Location: Blyth, Northumberland, UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:46 am Post subject: |
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lol!
I really wish I'd dropped the cross member on my car when we did our engine recently, seeing my neighbour standing on top of the new engine (supported by the hoist) trying to kick it into place was a real stress-out situation!
What I learned is - the 924 engine swap is real easy to do, but you've got to go the whole hog and remove everything, otherwise there's just too much sh*t in the way that will slow you down, cause frustration and at the end of the day end up broken when you become impatient.. _________________ Mars Red '78 Euro 924 n/a
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