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[browning]

i have two complete cars the 77 is bone stock manaul everything no sunroof ect.. the 79 has pretty much power everthing sunroof spoiler.but ingnition has been hacked to death and it currently does not run and has a lost title.i'm about ready to start in on one of them "don't laugh" which one would be the better investment?what are the good and bads points for each year?

[924RACR]

I suppose a starting point would be what do you intend to do with the car?
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'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
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[Neil924]

Power options are nice but they can fail quickly on old cars. Then you have a non-power car with no title. I would go for the 77 if it is in much better shape. Does the 79 have A/C? That could make a difference if it's hot down there. So I would think about the better chasis and weigh the costs and time to get the 79 up to the 77 condition.

[924guy]

for track or DE id put my ducks into the 79, if i remember correctly its got 15 more base hp, the snail tail is lighter than the audi 4spd, and also easier to change gearing on if you really get serious ..
for auto cross id go with the 77..the four speed is better suited and a little more tourquey...

but if your just looking for a street ride,you just have to list the pros and cons and go with what suits your need the best, either way itll be fun!!
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[5150]

I personally don't like power anything.. i like cars to be simple and finctional. But to answer, i'd take the best parts of both cars and amalgamate into one - but i'd ditch all the power stuff, lets face it you don't need any of that stuff..
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[wdb]

yeah what are your intentions youngman .if your going to keep the car till your old you'll appreciate the creature cumforts of the 79 . if its just going to be a lustful fling ,fix whichever is in better condition and save the time and money for the other ladies in your life . the 79 has a cronic condition with the tranny syncros , new ones wear out again , just as fast . a detail assestment of the condition of both cars is needed ,to make this discission . maybe those who hve recently rebiult there egines, tranny ,suspentions etc , can post what it cost them to give you an idea of time and money . I'd say ,if possible ,do it right and complete the first time ,and be done for years , the band aid approach of fixing only whats immediately wrong cost more time and money in the long run . and can be a cronic source of frustration , not to mention the trouble of breaking down at a bad time and or place . unreliable cars get parked or sold if the owner doesnt have the time, patients, money, desire, to finnish the job . so a car you can drive will keep your attention ,so I guess start there , which 1 runs the best . the fuel injection seems to be the single most frequent problem . corroded or loose electrical connections , bad fuel pump relay , 20 years of crud collection in the tank clogging filters ,fuel distributor and damaging the pumps , pressure regulator,aux air valve , cold start valve giong bad can be costly . I think a new set of sidedraft carbs cost about the same as completely replacing all the F/I parts ,about 6 -$800, and because there simpler to rebuild and tune some have opted to go with carbs . whoever if you plan to add a turbo or supercharger later youll need the F/I system . I think to refresh the motor ,new main,rod bearings ,rings and front/rear seal are under $200 ,complete rebuild 6-8 hundred . the link section has alot of useful info for parts how to members with websites with specific info for the 924 ,I wasnt able that list though . good luck

[Sleykin]

I would go with the one with the clear title unless you can get a clear pink for the other. With no title it is just a yard ornament. Power costs $$$ be it power windows or horse power. Put your money where your dreams are and enjoy the ride.
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[browning]

basicly the car is going to be a weekend toy both need complete restorations.but they are both rust free .kinda hard to find a rusty car in arkansas.as for the title getting a new title down here is fairly easy have the state police bond the car to make sure it isn't stolen. and apply for a title takes $20 and 5 to 10 days for a title.i'm going to do a rebuild bigger cam ing header fab up a 2 1/2 mandrel exhaust nothing real radical just something fun.

[gohim]

Porsche makes changes to each model year, which makes the new car heavier, and more comfortable to drive in. Not necessarily faster.

You never mentioned the complete equipment list from the two cars, and that makes the decision about which car to restore harder.

Ac has been mentioned, as well as the transmission. Which car/s have ac, and which transmission does the 79 have (five speed with dogleg shift pattern, or four speed with conventional H pattern)?

The 79 should have 15 more hp than the 77 does, and it definitely has more sound insulation. If you could drive both cars, you would fine that the steering feels different, because the 77 has the upper mounting points for the struts 1/4" closer together (you can tell the difference when driving). The 77 came with an exhaust manifold prone to cracking. Both cars use the same exhaust manifold. If you are going to remove both engines anyway, it won't make much of a difference, but for giggles, take a quick look at the bottom of the exhaust manifolds to see if either or both cars have the later reinforced exhaust manifold (the improved exhaust manifolds have ribs running from the gasket surface along the pipes to help support them and help prevent cracking).

Of course the 79 also has a smog pump, where the 77 does not. The 77 has a different rear torsion bar carrier, and you can change the torsion bars without lowering the torsion bar carrier out of the car. On the 79 swapping torsion bars is a much more involved process.

A sunroof is a big plus factor for me.

If you could drive both cars, you could see that the 77 is a faster car, while the 79 is more comfortable.

If the choice was mine, I would go with the car that has the better body. I don't like to do body work, because I am too picky, and good body shops are expensive. You can mount almost any of the improved parts from the 79 on the 77 if necessary or desired.

[Joes924Racer]

Im gonna say the 79 even though the rear torsion bars are harder to replace though it has no title ...Id make the 77 a runner and use parts from the 79 like the snailshell youll get that 5th gear for highway driven thats nice.
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[ropndave]

I'm just a newbe but my 77 is turning into quite the project. I recently had the head machined, and replaced the cam shaft. The cam seems to be getting harder to find. The head was warped and had .20 taken off to make it flat. The real issue was the use of bad antifreeze in the past(prior to my ownership). Everything was leaking everywhere. water in the oil, water in the cylinders etc. This required a significant amount of welding to repair. So prehaps the best course of action may be to pull the head off both and let that be that desiding factor. But what do I know

[Khal]

Sell them both. Buy an '81 Turbo
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[ropndave]

Well as this isn't my post I'll check it this weekend, as it is currently sitting on a shelf, Since it cost me over $600.00 US including the cam I sure hope it's good

[browning]

i've decided to go with the 79 to start with.i went ahead and got the 77 and put it up in one my dads shops no telling when it will ever see the light of day but it is still better the the salvage yard it was sitting at.just started to look at the 79 it has kinda gold wheels is this normal and the drivers window will not roll up and the battrey tray is in sad shape this thing should keep me busy for quite awhile any tips on where to start??????