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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Get to know your local Porsche parts guy. Once you get to know him, he will quite often match or come close to what you can find else where.
As Gohim and I have stated many times:
PORSCHE HAS A 2 YEAR WARRANTY ON PARTS!!! |
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924 turbo

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1566 Location: Simi Valley, CA, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: | | Get to know your local Porsche parts guy. Once you get to know him, he will quite often match or come close to what you can find else where. |
Agreed. _________________ Jon Furst |
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nguyenaq
Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 65
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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When you guys say "keep up with the regular maintenance" , you guys are referring to the front engine service correct?
which gas grade is preferrable for the 88 924S?
does anyone know if fog lights were available as an option for 88 924?
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Zuffen
Joined: 31 Jul 2001 Posts: 1427 Location: Owasso, Oklahoma 74055
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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This may be bad advice...
but have a lttle faith that maintanence was done right in the past and the seller hasn't lied and the recent service check was done by a reliable and competent shop
generally a porsche if treated and abused will show the obvious signs
Generally if the car looks good cosmetically the owner took care of the inner problems if known. If the owner of the car is a first or second owner you can bet he bought the car for the right reasons and will have been careful with regular services.
And lets say you have a near perfect car, that is no promise that in two months, a valve spring may break or the rubber centered clutch will start knocking or the CV joint won't start a popping.
Owning any used sports car or muscle car is a lesson in love and patience.
The best thing is to hope for the best but don't be discouraged by setbacks.
Obviously bargaining and doing your background checks is the smart thing but in the end you have to have a understanding that this car has age and miles and can turn into a financial problem regardless of how safe you plan it. Buy as low as possible, budget money to fix problems that will occur in the future and enjoy the car.
Alot of people don't mind spending money on their Porsche even over its value, as it could be considered "thereapy driving " and after a hard day at work or a long week I can't think of any better way to relax.... _________________ Bob Dodd - 924turbo@cox.net
931 1982, 944 1982 euro, 924S 1988SE, 93 968 tip 06 Silver Cayenne S, 06 Black Cayenne S
I have Way too many cars, parts for the 931,944 and 951 |
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Stu2j

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1285 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:02 am Post subject: |
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>>>How will the Prospective Buyer be able to tell if the Seller really got the belts retensioned?
Gee whiz, let’s see...... maybe by looking at the invoice where the work was done?
>>>Just how is this new guy supposed to sort out who is qualified to work on his new car?
How do you know who to call for a plumber, a roof repair, for dental work, etc.?
>>>And the Porsche Dealer Mechanic will have the correct tools available, and the Factory Workshp manuals to refer to for information.
Any mechanic that works on these cars consistently will have the same exact things. What they won’t have is a pompous attitude toward the customer and a labor rate that rivals Johnny Cochran.
>>>Every Porsche Dealership that I have been to will stand behind the work that they charge for.
Complete horsepucky. Midas stands behind their work. Everyone else just stands there.
>>>If the shop/s where you can get the belts retensioned for $50 won't warranty their work, that tells you something about the quality of the work that they do.
The Porsche dealership would not warranty ANYTHING with regard to a belt re-tension. That is simply a fact.
>>>following me from subject thread to thread attacking me.
Get over your paranoia.
>>>I have seen, read and heard of multiple cases when Porsche PCNA has picked up the whole tab (parts and labor) when the parts that are under warranty fail and cause other damage (for instance, when a timing belt fails, and the engine is damaged).
I didn’t just “read”” or “hear” about it. I have actual invoices from the Porsche dealership where they did an oil change with 12 quarts of oil, they replaced a thermostat that went bad a month later, they did a wheel bearing job that failed a year later, they replaced an oxygen sensor but didn’t hit the reset button and charged me to turn out the light, they performed the 60,000 mile maintenance (timing belt) and then six months later on complaint of the engine running rough recommended timing belt replacement and the list goes on and on. In every instance, the dealership response was gosh we’re sorry but that’s the way it goes. For several hundred more we'll take a look at it.
I had a standing joke/bet with friends that you couldn't get your car back from a Porsche dealer for less than $300. If you put the car in for an oil change, they will recommend at least $300 worth of additional work. It never failed. If you refuse the additional work, they simply charge you for 12 quarts of oil and tack on a huge "shop fee".
>>>Now I am not saying that your mechanic can't change a tire, or install the clutch in your 924S, without screwing up,
I am amazed at your ability to judge those you don’t know and have never met. My incompetent mechanic built Porsche race cars until he retired. Boredom brought him out of retirement and he opened a garage. He’s forgotten more about these cars than the kids working at the dealership (who are really salespeople for additional work) will ever know.
The only problem with my mechanic is that he loves to talk about the cars. You have to budget extra time when you pick up the car
>>>Stu2j, why don't you grow up?
Why don’t you get over yourself?
BTW, my name is “Stu”. It is in the signature line of every message I post. _________________ -Stu
924 owner since 1988
924S owner since 2002
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Stu2j

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1285 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:31 am Post subject: |
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>>>Get to know your local Porsche parts guy. Once you get to know him, he will quite often match or come close to what you can find else where.
Remember just recently when I was having the brakes done? The Porsche parts quote on the rear wheel cylinders was $75 each. Someone here recommended that I try AutoZone who quoted $25 each.
Want to talk about the price of a Master Cylinder from Porsche?
Hmmmmmm....
Just how well do you have to get to know the guy to get him to play in the same ball park with you?
>>>PORSCHE HAS A 2 YEAR WARRANTY ON PARTS!
Wanna make a bet that those rear wheel cylinders at 1/3 the cost last two years?
Sorry folks, I just ain't seeing it. _________________ -Stu
924 owner since 1988
924S owner since 2002
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Stu2j

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1285 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| Zuffen wrote: | | ...in the end you have to have a understanding that this car has age and miles and can turn into a financial problem regardless of how safe you plan it. .... |
Amen
| nguyenaq wrote: | When you guys say "keep up with the regular maintenance" , you guys are referring to the front engine service correct?
which gas grade is preferrable for the 88 924S?
does anyone know if fog lights were available as an option for 88 924? |
All maintenance is important on an old car. The front engine service is critical because of the potential damage to the engine should the belt break. However, I am not among those that believe you should jump out of the car and have it towed to the Porsche Delear should you happen to notice that the car has 30001 miles on it since the last belt change anymore than you should quit driving it if you happen to exceed the 3000 miles since the last oil change.
My 87 uses 87 Octane (per the owners manual). I've seen different things posted here on the 88 but its best to check the manual and use the recommended minimum level (especially at today's gas prices).
I simply don't know about the fog lights. Anyone? _________________ -Stu
924 owner since 1988
924S owner since 2002
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Stu2j:
I have been addressing messages to your attention with your chosen screen name, just as everybody else does to everyone else on this Message Board.
And, just as you do, when you address myself, or others, on this Message Board.
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
Gee, I'm sorry, I never meant to insult you by calling you by the screen name of your choice.
Could I ask why... If you don't want to be referred to, or addressed as Stu2j, did you choose that name, and why you don't change your screen name to something that will make you more happy to be referred to as or addressed as, in the future? |
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Stu2j

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1285 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? |
Well, I would like to get a 931 to completely restore or give up the 924 series quest and get a Boxster. However, the wife wants to remodel the house and add a sunroom and the kids want a pool which is cool with my wife because she wants to re-landscape. My son just came back from Iraq and now he is moving back in and just bought this beeter S-10 that he wants me to fix up. Gordon can't seem to win a race and it looks like the Braves are gonna suck this year. My relatives and neighbors have become a real pain and I've had terrible luck in Atlantic City. Lately, work has been a real bitch and I've got some strange kinda weeds growing in the yard that I can't get rid of. The house needs painting and the homeowners assoc....... oh.. were you referring to something specific? nevermind..... _________________ -Stu
924 owner since 1988
924S owner since 2002
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Roger

Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 1235 Location: Cordova, TN
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I could tell you nightmares about Marrone (the old Autonation) down here. I went to 4 different Marrone Dodge dealers and their parts and service departments abloslutly suck. I couldn't wait till the warranty ran out so I could do the work myself. Fortunatly the local Porsche shop is great. Often finding a competent shop is teial and error. _________________ 1981 924 NA
Some people are like Slinkies. Not really good for anything, but you
still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. |
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MAAS
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 72
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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- the owner changed the timing belt at 45k miles on august 8, 2002.
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- The timing belts will have to be replaced immediately, they are way overdue.
Sorry... misread
My bad.
-MAS |
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ljd 924SE
Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 30 Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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my '88 requires 91 or higher octane. i didn't believe it until i saw the sticker on the inside of the tank filler door. sure enough 91 (r+m)/2 octane. this is due to the compression ratio bump up to 10.2 - 1. not sure if all the '88 924S's got the eurospec CR, because mine is a sport edition and may be different, though i'd bet all the '88's have the 10.2 - 1 pistons.
the bad news is 20cents more per gallon, the good news is 11 hp. _________________ '88 924S Sport Edition
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wildchild
Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 13 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Well I've had my 86 924s for about 9 weeks now and loved every minute of it. It's left me stranded twice with a flat battery, but I'd left my lights on and should have learnt my lesson after the first time
Headlight warning system now in place.
It's done approx 92,000 miles and I've just had the front end service done for a cost of 400 sterling.
The garage also gave me a 16 point fault list with the car which was great, there was nothing on there that I hadn't expected on a car of this age, and now I can start to prioritise the rest of the work that needs doing, a lot I will do myself, some will go to the garage simply because I haven't got the gear to go crawling under the car.
Buy it, love it and maintain it, the 924S is dearer to look after than the 924, on the other hand it's also a better car to my mind. You decide which toy you want and then pay for it
You've got to expect things to go wrong, after all, sh*t happens !
cheers
wildchild _________________ 924S - should have bought it years ago..
92k 1986, Guards Red |
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