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jjadczak · Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 346 Location: Accokeek, MD

Hey Vaughan as one of the series Directors of the GTS Challenge and someone who is in the know about next year's 2004 schedule do you think there will again be a Beaverrun NASA date sometime in August 2004? Last year it was over Labor Day weekend. If we could get a NASA date in August, do the other 924 drivers want to get together and commit to running in the GTS1 race? We can follow Vaughan around Beaverrun and then take serious shots at his 1:13 lap times. It could be Andy Franklin, Ray in #53, Vaughan, Ryogi, and maybe me in #54, John Brown?, and anyone else who runs Porsche Club that we could convince to meet up who lives in the area. Call it the East Midwest 924 challenge. It would be that one event where we could try to plan on meeting up just about once a season but make it a yearly thing. I figure that we could paddock together and someone brings the beer, another brings the food, and we make it an event. Would there be interest in at least agreeing in principle to try to meet up once and for all and race against each other barring unforseen circumstances like backing your 924 into tire barriers in Michigan the weekend before

? I figure Beaverrun is perfect distance for us all since Ryogi and us are both east of Philly and Vaughan is near Detroit. John Brown is about 4 hours away in the DC area and Andy is just a couple hours away. Feedback? Questions, suggestions? What do you all think, if not a Beaverrun NASA event could we run an SCCA regional or even vintage event at Beaverrun?

Also Kudos to Ryogi for putting together the web page on our recent outing at Summit Point. Its a great tool to show my friends famly and co-workers what it is that we love doing so much.

AndyFranklin · Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 184 Location: Novelty OH

Here is something else to throw into the scheduling mix....

Earlier this week the Neohio board (I'm a trustee for the region) voted to hold a 12Hr at Nelsons In July. Milwaukee Region screwed us on our National at the Ledges, so we are going to do this instead. It will be the first step in the return of the Longest Day.

What are NASA's licensing requirements? Would this be put on by Lawrence Mansier? After he stiffed workers (promised to pay corner workers then, after not being available at the end of the weekend, changed it to credit towards track time) and the track (including paying with a bad check) I can't say I trust him to put on a proper event.

jjadczak · Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 346 Location: Accokeek, MD

NASA allows you to run once on your SCCA liscense, then you have to apply for a NASA liscense ($50). Then your all set. They fully accept your SCCA exp. and while they would like you to go through their comp schools they allow you to play if you've already gone through your SCCA schools.

Andy, are you suggesting that we all run in the Nelson 12 hour or that we pull our resources together and run 1 car in the 12 hour? I'm confused.

Are you putting together a ITA car or an F Prod car?

924RACR · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 1:03 am Post subject:

Lawrence hasn't announced his schedule yet... and we'd be working off of that. I'm surprised to hear about the track time vs. cash issue - last I looked, you could still earn cash (per the website) though I do think the track time is still the better deal. I haven't had any problems myself with working with Lawrence or at his events.

I can't say that a 12hr event would be something my car's ready for... but it would be fun! I'd rather start with something shorter, though, and NASA does do plenty of enduros, including at Beaverun. I agree Beaverun is in the vicinity of a good meeting place.

As far as 924-specific stuff - easiest for me is to coordinate under the banner of GTS Challenge, of course. Heck, we'd all be racing each other anyway, except for Andy's car - I'd guess that'd be in GTS2 or some such, playing with the 944's. But the schedule for 04 is not yet finalized.
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AndyFranklin · Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 184 Location: Novelty OH

Plans are still pointed on the FProd. Other than being lighter (I do get to try to get to 2200 lbs), you guys probably will have better developed motors than I for next year. Money needs to be spent elsewhere (unless I win the lottery). Right now I'm just working on getting a track-ready car.

I just threw out the 12Hr as something to get everyone thinking and planning, not necessarily to put events in competition. And, for some reason, I was thinking it was August when I started writing, instead of July.

ryoji · Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 168 Location: NNJ

We should be abel to put a lot of junks in Andy's car before the race starts to match ours

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Hava a race against each other among 924 ; sounds great. We can invite lots of 924board friends there and a party. I hope the date is not match against 944cup's "one more race in Aug or Oct" date.

Everybody get together and run 12hr, sounds nice, too. If Jermey get the tire sponser, everybody bring brake pads .. . and ... Let's see, the Jadczak team brings his car to 12hr at the Nelson. I bring mine to 12hr at the Summit, then, ... . Now we have, two drivers in the Jadczak team, Vaughan, Andy, John, and myself gives 2hr each. Jermey would take extra time if anybody get too tired towards the end

(I know this; 6hr cart enduro, everybody wanted to drive at the beginning. No one wanted to drive at the end.) Wow I think it's doable?

Any case, we can get together and have a party! Tell me when

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jjadczak · Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 346 Location: Accokeek, MD

You know, we at F.L.A.G. Motorsports have longed for the day that the little nimble 924 will run in the 12 Hours at the Point but it is a major major commitment but doable.

Last year, a couple of my friends ran a 944 in the 12 Hours at Summit Point and let me tell you they just about had one spare of everything. They felt that 3 sets of drys and maybe one set of rains would just about do it for 12 hours. They had approximately 15-20 people around them that knew what they were doing and knew how to bleed 944 brakes, etc. We would probably go through 2 sets of front brake pads and maybe 1 set in the rear. A lot of people pitched in and everyone had a different job, knew what to do and therefore required very little instruction. They had a captian or crew chief and it worked out well. Someone volunteered the use of their motorhome, another member was responsible for keeping people fed and hydrated, etc.

We did run in a 3 hour race this year at the Glen and had a blast

(well until I crashed out

) The fact that we could do the pits stops, etc. was awesome! One of the reasons we haven't fully jumped into the F Prod thing yet is that we absolutely want and need to do more enduros. It certainly isn't out of the question that we would use our car but we don't have the resources, finances, and spare parts to do it right. Ryogi, you've driven Summit Point and your gonna need like 4 drivers as the race is in June and people get worn out fast. When we did it at the Glen, we were not well prepared and learned several lessons that we'll apply for the next time.

As far as a conflict with 944 Cup potential date, based on what happened last year everything worked out well but we will have to wait and see. I am eagerly anticipating an opportunity to run with Vaughan and was so bummed when he couldn't join us this year at the Beav. I think that is is really important to have that head to head with Vaughan if for nothing else than to just to meet him.

Jeremy
F.L.A.G Motorsports
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ryoji · Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 168 Location: NNJ

12hr. All after you get the tir sponser!

BTW, are you, Jermey and anybody else, heading to the Daytona in RRII?
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924RACR · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:32 pm Post subject:

My plan for next year is mainly to be just racing at Waterford, with perhaps 2 NASA dates: a fall race, likely Beaverun if we plan to meet up there, and there's rumored to be a key Mid-Ohio race in June coming up. There might be a Road America date towards the end of the season, and if things are going really well, I might go if I can swing it. I'd like to run there sometime, but not before I'm ready. It's all just a Q of how the schedules turn out, and if I can get old 77 in solid shape again, like it used to be...
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jjadczak · Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 346 Location: Accokeek, MD

So does this mean that were not going to enter your car for the 12 Hours at the Point?

Jeremy

ryoji · Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 168 Location: NNJ

6 months away. focus on 25hrs Enduro

Wish being in West or South.
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924RACR · Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 12:14 am Post subject:

Haha!!! You guys are such kidders, honestly...
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jjadczak · Joined: 03 Jan 2003 Posts: 346 Location: Accokeek, MD

Hey Ryogi, there was talk of JADRACERS goint down to Daytona for the 24 hour race if we can get a commitment from everyone that they want to go and will help drive the motorhome back and forth. The last conversation we had about that was like 3 months ago though.

Would there be interest from the 924 guys to get together for the Rolex 24 hour race?

I've attended I think 5 or 6 24 hour races and it's always a lot of fun but very exhausting when driving back and forth to FLA. I think there is one full night (Friday) where there isn't a lot of noise, or the vehicle isn't moving where you get a decent night of sleep. If you get a bunch of people together it can be a great weekend if someone is gets a reserved RV spot to pull in with an RV in the infield which is a base camp to protect you from the elements or provide a place to get a Brat, etc.

I can't go to Rennsport II because of work commitments. I know that now. If I found a cheap flight back and forth I might go down to watch for like Sat. and leave Sun.

I've been to Sebring once and it was very very cool, but hot as balls, humid and we were not prepared at all for the elements being Yanks and all. I'd love to go down again but this time spend the money to get a reserved spot with a motorhome.

One day were going to run in the 12 hour race. I'm certain of that but we are probably going to have to buy the Hankooks.

Awaiting the NESCCA schedule for 2004. Were going to be doing a couple of their endurance series events next season. If it's like a 4 or 5 hour race were gonna need you to be the third driver. Except were gonna need to throw in a phone book or two for you or your gonna need to put on like 30-40 pounds

Jeremy Jadczak
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ryoji · Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 168 Location: NNJ

you can find a tentative schedule at

http://www.flr-scca.com/race/nediv.html

What should be able to join a Daytona 24hr outing as long as I can plan it in advance.
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924RACR · Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 12:05 am Post subject:

Daytona tends to be pretty unlikely for me due to the schedule - I spend most of the winter (Dec-March) in Northen Minnesota for work. What's the date next year?
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