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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:14 am Post subject: Battery box worse than I thought |
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Ok, I finished stripping out my interior, and so now my attention has turned to the battery box. I figured it was pretty badly rusted, which it is. What I hadn't taken into account was the rust continues down into the firewall!
I can't see exactly how far it goes, but I'm going to peel back the firewall trim and see today.
Has anyone had this problem before? I figure I can just pull the engine and weld it up, maybe throw in a few chunks of lightwall 1" as a brace while I'm at it. |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Yea it probly went all the way down to where the frame comes out.
Theres like a wall there that is curved and it could have a bunch of pinholes in it from rust mine did. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:15 am Post subject: |
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From the top, I can see the rust is pretty bad, but I can't see more than about 6" down... the rust appears to be around 6" wide, so it's probably more like 10"...
Have you fixed yours Joe? |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:26 am Post subject: |
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It helps to have the engine out.
 _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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gwsg

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 160 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:41 am Post subject: |
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On mine the rust didn't reach the firewall but it went through the bottom of the tray and came out through the mudguard just above the front wheel. About a 3" x 4" hole.
After cutting away all the bad metal treat with a rust converter [phosphoric acid or similar] followed by a coat of cold galvanising [zinc powder in epoxy] before sealing and painting.
Kill the rust totally dead or it will end up eating your whole car. Its like cancer.  _________________ My 80 924 loves me. |
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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the tips, I hope it's not too bad... This is all because the PO sealed it up using canned foam and some cheap sticky paint. I even found a rag stuffed in there. |
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gwsg

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 160 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Bloody POs! _________________ My 80 924 loves me. |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:19 am Post subject: |
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hahah-a its a goodtime to get some por-15 rust killer and try it out if you can find it up there. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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CMXXXI

Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 1939 Location: Vicksburg, MS
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Once repaired, I'd suggest a final coat using a rubberized spray undercoating material. 3M makes a good one I've used with great success in those areas exposed to the elements. I would think that the rubberized coating would help prevent a recurrance of the acid eating away at things. _________________ '79 Eurospec 931 |
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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I think housing the battery in a sealed box behind the passenger seat should solve these problems in the future
But for now, I have to do some serious wrenching and welding. Good thing I'm going to school in the fall for my welding tickets  |
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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm beginning to hate the previous owner of this car.
I pulled off the insulation stuff on the passenger side of the firewall, which has been acting as a sponge for the last 2 years in pacific northwest weather.
There is rust all the way down the passenger side of the firewall, about 40cm x 10 cm that needs to be cut and welded. Luckily, it seems to have missed the bellhousing.
Well, looks like I have my work cut out for me, and I won't be enjoying the handling of this car above civilian speeds until I fix it.
Nuts.  |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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O man get the wire feed. _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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wdb

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 2024
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| hey joe , the last time we saw your firewall it had a sheet metal and screw patch holding it together . who fixed it and how |
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9075 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I too had this problem in my 82 931, completely tore it out and built a new battery box. Sucked, but at least it is now perfect!!!  _________________ Vaughan Scott
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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a lot of work indeed
Got any pics Vaughan? |
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