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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:45 am    Post subject: OT: Test driving a 300ZX TT this week. Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

go with a hyundia pony, real cheap, fun to beat the piss out of, if you know the car they are reliable, (engines life expentance is only 130K though), or you could get a 3rd gen camaro RS + V6 fairly peppy desent suspension
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyundai Pony's aren't sold here, besides, it's a Hyundai. A camaro would be nice, but the V6 kinda sucks, and the V8 eats too much gas. BMWs are too expensive to repair, Mercedes doesn't really appeal to us, and no good Porsches with low miles. Ford is out of the question, and Chrystler doesn't offer anything very exciting to drive. Chevy makes some cool cars, but they all eat gas. So, I guess we're kinda stuck with the japanese market. Acura Integra GS-Rs are OK, but they're small. The Maxima makes decent power, but isn't too fun. A Subaru would be nice, but they retain resale value too well, so it's out of the price range. No more mitsubishi's. Less than 120k miles, and the Eclipse is dead. The car wasn't even driven hard. If somebody finds a 951 or a 924S with less than 70k miles, then that'd be ideal, but right now, the selection is kinda limited.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toyota Supra?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supras resell for too much because of a certain movie... the 300zx is a very cool car. If you want, I can look around and find my buyers guide for that car. Nothing special, it's a feature in Sport Compact Car, but it does give a lot of details.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked Supra prices, they're 20k for a high milage N/A Auto, so that's out of the question. As for that particular 300ZX, guy called me today, said he sold the car, which is a crying shame, it was a great deal and looked awesome (except for the huge mufflers). I guess I'll go test drive a 300ZX TT with 102k mi. Most of these cars are automatics, damn, finding a decent stick shift car is hard.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funny thing about supras is, the automatics are rare and sought after by "enthusiasts." I've seen an article about a guy who was bragging he had one of forty automatic, PURPLE, supras imported to the states (maybe there was a reason only 40 of them were shipped!!)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dmitry, I checked Auto Trader and I found four or five 300ZX turbos, all manual, in the listings (within 50 miles of you).

Of course, there's always other sports cars, for example:
RX7 (93+)
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
Dodge Stealth R/T turbo
Corvette (90+)
911SC (77-83)
928S (85-86)
944 turbo

For brute acceleration:
Camaro Z28 (93-97)

Something less conspicuous, maybe?:
Audi A4 (97-99)
BMW 3-series (E36)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't recomend the 3000gt vr4 or the dodge stealth, simply because they are friggen huge (maybe it's just me, but I'm not crazy about heavy sports cars...except a few). The rx-7 would be cool, If you have the cash to repair them constantly (especially if you start modifying them). The problem is that all those Japanese sports cars from that time are rediculously expensive here in America. rx7s are hard to find and the ones in good condition are well over $12K. The diamond star line (vr4 and stealthTT) would probably be cheaper though, except they're cows.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hate to do it, but i have to recommend the bmw e30 M3, the first generation of the M3's. later years of this first generation have a slightly more powerful engine (220 hp) so look for the something around an '90. you should have no trouble finding a good example for under $12k. it might be the most complete package for a sport coupe in this price range; quick, agile, versitle, comfortable and reliable. the fact that it's not a huge car is also attractive (always been a fan of smaller, lighter cars). plus, all that power from a lightweight, normally aspirated 2.3 liter I-4. if i were ever to stray from porsche in search of a sport coupe, this would be the one. you'll understand what i'm talking about if you ever take one out for a drive.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the RX7 idea but it sounds like the maintiance would be a problem.

A buddy of mine has a Ford Probe with the V6 he loves it. I know you said Fords are out of the question but it might be worth considering.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ford anal probe you mean, I wouldn't touch a ford, they r a PITA IMHO
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Dmitry, I checked and I found four or five 300ZX turbos, all manual, in the listings (within 50 miles of you)."

Yeah, I've been looking on Autotrader, Yahoo Autos, Craigslist, you name it. The 4 or 5 300ZX Turbos on Autotrader all have over 100k miles, about the time when the turbos need replacement, which isn't ideal. The 300ZX I was looking into had a rebuilt engine with new turbos, damn shame it was sold.

Of course, there's always other sports cars, for example:
RX7 (93+) - Lots of electrical problems, and the motors lose compression very quickly.

Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 - Pretty heavy car, also, another Mitsubishi, not too fond after the Eclipse failed at 112k miles.

Dodge Stealth R/T turbo - Same car as above.

Corvette (90+) - I'll look into this, haven't thought about it, nice car, I just need to find one under 70k miles, and under 12k.

911SC (77-83) - Haven't found any under 120k miles. I'll keep looking. Also, the pre-74 ones look really spiffy (no huge bumpers)

928S (85-86) - Crazy expensive maintenence costs. Nice car, but not really what we're looking for. Also, eats gas.

944 turbo - I finally got my brother to agree to test drive one. All the ones in my area have high milage. One on ebay has 43k miles, and the Buy It Now is $12k. That'd be very nice, but we have to test drive one in the area first.

For brute acceleration:
Camaro Z28 (93-97) - Looked into this. Too expensive, and eats gas.

Something less conspicuous, maybe?:
Audi A4 (97-99) - Hmmm. I'll check it out, a 1.8T would be nice.

BMW 3-series (E36) - All the ones in our price range have lots of miles.


Somebody also mentioned an E30 M3. Awesome car, but I haven't found one in the area. Also, they usually have over 100k miles, and are more than 12k.[/i]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the sports cars I listed get very similar gas mileage, as does the Camaro Z28. I wouldn't write any of them off as gas guzzlers, or you'd have to write them all off. For example, the 300ZX TT's 18/24 is probably going to cost the same as the Z28's 17/26.

Check out the EPA site for info: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/bymakemodelNF.shtml
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang, I didn't know the 300ZX TT ate that much fuel. I looked into the LT1 Corvettes, those seem to be a very nice option. As for the Camaros, the only ones in my brother's price range is the V6 model, and those aren't too fun. Anyways, I'm gonna go search around some more. I gotta get to sleep early, lot of stuff getting done on my car tomorrow.
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