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HappyPuppy · Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 10:14 pm Post subject:

One question, guys...

Does the plain old 924 have the oil passage holes on the right spot on the rod bearings? I was thinking about what Huntley Racing had said, and it makes preety good sense to me. I figure the passages need to be on the outward side of each rod bearing. If someone on here is rebuilding the bottom end, could they take a look.

I've almost got my engine completely together on the stand (thanks to you guys), but I'll tear it back apart in a heartbeat if I can prevent bearing failure.

thanx
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81turbo · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: Oakland, CA

This is not a problem on the early 924

HappyPuppy · Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 12:13 am Post subject:

Cool...

I really didn't want to pull my engine apart. Thanks for letting me know, 81turbo.

cya
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Smoothie · Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 1:31 am Post subject:

No brainer if it's covered, have the shop fix it. Only down side is if the perp drilling really works, you still won't have that.
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924RACR · Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 1:33 am Post subject:

Dave Finch is the guy who figured out the oiling problem for the factory... Porsche denied it until he threw the evidence, including R+D and results, in their faces. It's a harmonic, not centrifugal, and is specific to the 2.5L engine. The only oiling problems I've had on my 924 is hot performance before I installed the oil cooler.

Dave Finch, BTW, is the guy here in Ann Arbor with the #55 GT2 944, the yellow Raetech car, who's always at the Ruboffs, and usually wins. Came very close I think it was last year, from the back of the field, finished 2nd, after a BS call penalty on the grid from the good ole SCCA. This guy's forgotten more about racing 924's and 944's than any of us will ever know, and his 944 is more GTR than 944.

Drilling the crank, as I recall, is the solution, and should be neglected on a track car only if you enjoy replacing bearings and rinsing out oil coolers. Personally, I can think of things I'd rather do to my racecar.

That doesn't help your question, of course, but if you're tracking this car regularly you have to be looking at this from a different mindset than if it were a street car/daily driver. This is now, effectively, a racecar. Do you expect to get your money out from the suspension upgrades, dollar-for-dollar? Of course that's not gonna happen, neither is the money for the engine.

I've dumped easily $10k into my racecar, or will have by the end of this season. It's a '79 2.0L 924, worth $1k maybe originally, worth maybe $3-5k now. Plus I've going to have to either rebuild or replace the motor soon, due to wear. Another $2k. That's life with a racecar. It's also never gonna be fast enough.

The answers you have facing you are, if you're truly disgusted with the waste of money, quit going to the track. No matter whether you fix this car, or drive something else, you're not gonna be happy. Racing, even tracking a car, is a money pit, and that will never change.

Know how to make a small fortune in racing?

Start with a big one.

If you can come to grips with the idea that this is just the money you spend on your hobby, and you're never gonna see it again, but you're getting enough enjoyment out of it to deal with it, then you get to decide if this level of speed is what you want, or if you want to push for something faster. This might be a decent time to upgrade. OTOH, broken racecars go real cheap. You might be better off fixing it then selling it to a wannabe racer, using the proceeds to upgrade to a 951 or even a 931 and start all over again building a car. If nothing else, the latter route would give you a fresh chance to learn from your past mistakes. There are many things that I would do differently on my racecar, but will not tear the car apart to redo, like the cage. However, my next racecar will not have the same mistakes.
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Carnut 280 · Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 101 Location: Denver, Colorado

I will call the person who checked my work on the rebuild and see about a warrenty...(porsche parts and a Porsche tech = 1 year warrenty...I built it, they checked it, they started it for the first time.)

if not, I'll check it out, and talk it over with dad, as he helps supply funding for these things and see if we want to rebuild this one with a cross-drilled crank, or if we wanna maybe upgrade, or something. but we'll see.
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Carnut 280 · Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 101 Location: Denver, Colorado

By the way, the reasoning for my 2 screen names, is because, my computer, and only my computer know my password...I don't. As for having it changed, the same goes for that email address. my computer only knows that password. and since I'm home from school, that computer is hidden where it has no phone line, so i'm using this screen name for here...it's easier for my laziness
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gohim · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA

Carnut280,

You wrote that you ruined the original engine when you didn't stop driving on it when the warnign light came on.

You rebuilt the engine, so you are responsible for all the mistakes that you made while building it, and the results.

You choose to drive on it, immediately following the rebuild without a break in period.

Stop whining. It's not the car's fault, and any other car you buy to replace it will fail the same way if you treat it the same way.

Suck it up, learn from your mistakes and move on.

Carnut 280 · Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 101 Location: Denver, Colorado

gohim · Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA

If you don't want people to comment, don't post to the board.

You voided the parts on the parts, when you raced/abused the car.

Other people are not responsible for whatever mistakes you made when you rebuilt/freshen the engine.

The only person you have a right to be pissed at is yourself.

Stop whinning, and move on.

Carnut 280 · Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 101 Location: Denver, Colorado

Just so ya know, when the tech took a look at the engine, He took it apart to make sure we didn't screw up. he took the rods off, I think took the crank out, but he did more than just take a simple look at it. I never ONCE blamed him, but I thought, that maybe, just maybe there was a warranty, which would be nice. but since there isn't, I'll just move on.
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Paul · Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 12:12 pm Post subject:

Have you drained the oil yet?

Porschephile · Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 825 Location: Denver, Colorado

naw. too fed up, don't have a clean oil pan (dad wants a clean oil pan for this stuff)
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Porschephile · Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 825 Location: Denver, Colorado

so, could you guys keep an eye open on a cheap 951 or 944 for me? i'm gettin fed up here.. Thanks soooo much.
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moone924 · Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 869 Location: Douglas Wyoming

Well PPhile, if your going to get rid, or part out, your S...tell me, as I might be interested.
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